not by cleaning up, but, for those individuals who are *incapable* of doing so (severe adhd, for eg.), being pressured to do so. the tidiness thing is not the issue, tho. it's this sort of stuff: "Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them." srsly?! ...
Yeah, you're arguing that cultivating virtue is pointless because everything is genetically determined. So messy people should just not bother cleaning up and parents shouldn't discipline their children. This is obviously much more logical than Peterson's outlandish advice.
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Oh, and everyone should try and watch as much porn as possible to lower rape rates.
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HbdChick didn't i did .Nice strawman. Who said that?
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you argued that Peterson telling people to not watch porn is an example of his dangerous advice?
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She's saying that different people need different advice. Using your example of porn: some people might be more harmed by viewing porn than others. For some, alcohol consumption is ok, for others who are prone to addiction, it might be a problem.
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Actually, the original reason porn was brought up by hereditarian suggested that porn might actually be a virtue in an empirically rooted morality since increased porn consumption lowers rape rates
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Anyway, the idea that we can't come up with a general set of virtues that everyone, regardless of ability, can strive for and benefit from is precisely what I'm objecting to.
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Why is it about virtue? It should be about maximizing the well-being of the individual.
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no, i didn't say that. what i'm saying is that advice ought to be tailored to individuals and that self-help gurus ought to be clear that their advice won't work for everyone so as to avoid unnecessary suffering.
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So i read part of Peterson book (haven't finished yet). He tries to give advice that is as general as possible given his experience dealing with individual cases. It's really not something novel or anything. It's more on how he justifies and convinces you to do them 1/n
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It is not his book that i object to mostly it is claims like atheists don't exist unless they are doing something bad, dna in ancient art, truth is subjective etc.
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If he just stuck to his
@TonyRobbins crap I wouldn't mind so much tbh.
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