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    1. Timofey Pnin‏ @pnin1957 May 27
      Replying to @Hereditarian98 @PsychToday

      Having a clean room is good though even if his research is shoddy

      2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    2.  🎃 💀hbd chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick May 30
      Replying to @pnin1957 @Hereditarian98

      i'm w/evander here. not only is peterson's advice objectionable 'cause his thinking is pseudoscientific & magical, it's going to result in people suffering when they're unable to follow it (because he assumes all individuals are the same). not everybody CAN keep their room clean.

      10 replies 6 retweets 20 likes
    3. Timofey Pnin‏ @pnin1957 May 30
      Replying to @hbdchick @Hereditarian98

      How is anyone going to be harmed by cleaning up their room? I'm sure that most self-help advice, whether by Peterson or by anyone else, will go unheeded, but that's just more reason to disregard the moral panic about him.

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    4.  🎃 💀hbd chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick May 30
      Replying to @pnin1957 @Hereditarian98

      not by cleaning up, but, for those individuals who are *incapable* of doing so (severe adhd, for eg.), being pressured to do so. the tidiness thing is not the issue, tho. it's this sort of stuff: "Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them." srsly?! ...

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5.  🎃 💀hbd chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick May 30
      Replying to @hbdchick @pnin1957 @Hereditarian98

      the problem with peterson is the same as with nearly 100% of those cashing in on self-help advice: they fail to take into account that people are different. and, like evander said, it's frustrating to see otherwise intelligent people promoting such crap. (esp in my TL! (~_^) )

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    6. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 May 30
      Replying to @hbdchick @pnin1957 @Hereditarian98

      If telling less capable people to cultivate good habits is a bad thing isn't that a problem with any sort of virtue ethics? What if people of different levels of capability derive different amounts of good from a good habit?

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    7. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 May 30
      Replying to @ad_captandum2 @hbdchick and

      And what if people who are less capable actually derive *more* benefit from doing a good thing sporadically than capable people do from doing it perfectly

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    8.  🎃 💀hbd chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick May 30
      Replying to @ad_captandum2 @pnin1957 @Hereditarian98

      that'd be ok if that was the case. show me the evidence.

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    9. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 May 30
      Replying to @hbdchick @pnin1957 @Hereditarian98

      You're asking for evidence that cultivating good behavior that requires a certain amount of effort is good for people?

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    10.  🎃 💀hbd chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick May 30
      Replying to @ad_captandum2 @pnin1957 @Hereditarian98

      first of all, i'm asking for evidence that the various self-help suggestions peterson gives are good. then i'd like evidence that individuals who are less able to do these good things benefit more from doing them than those people for whom the actions come naturally.

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      ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 May 30
      Replying to @hbdchick @pnin1957 @Hereditarian98

      It would be idiotic to come up with an evidence based theory of morality based on social psych research given that hardly anything ever replicates. My point is that you're demanding evidence for the fundamentals of nearly all virtue ethics with the implication that anyone who

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        2. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 May 30
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @hbdchick and

          advocates any sort of cultivation of virtue to people of various levels of ability is, by definition, a charlatan. That's nonsensical.

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        3.  🎃 💀hbd chick 💀 🎃‏ @hbdchick May 30
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @pnin1957 @Hereditarian98

          i didn't say anything about peterson being a charlatan. he prolly believes what he says. i'm saying that anyone who gives blanket advice to all is simply giving bad advice, because human biodiversity.

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        4. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 May 30
          Replying to @hbdchick @pnin1957 @Hereditarian98

          Yeah, you're arguing that cultivating virtue is pointless because everything is genetically determined. So messy people should just not bother cleaning up and parents shouldn't discipline their children. This is obviously much more logical than Peterson's outlandish advice.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        5. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 May 30
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @hbdchick and

          Oh, and everyone should try and watch as much porn as possible to lower rape rates.

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        6. Evander‏ @Hereditarian98 May 30
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @hbdchick @pnin1957

          HbdChick didn't i did .Nice strawman. Who said that?

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        7. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 May 30
          Replying to @Hereditarian98 @hbdchick @pnin1957

          you argued that Peterson telling people to not watch porn is an example of his dangerous advice?

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        8. Bob Johnson‏ @bobj0n123 May 30
          Replying to @ad_captandum2 @Hereditarian98 and

          She's saying that different people need different advice. Using your example of porn: some people might be more harmed by viewing porn than others. For some, alcohol consumption is ok, for others who are prone to addiction, it might be a problem.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        9. ad_captandum2‏ @ad_captandum2 May 30
          Replying to @bobj0n123 @Hereditarian98 and

          Actually, the original reason porn was brought up by hereditarian suggested that porn might actually be a virtue in an empirically rooted morality since increased porn consumption lowers rape rates

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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