this is actually pretty fun to play and observe your mental reactions to winning/losinghttps://gamesfortraders.com/coin-challenge/
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holy fuck this was a grind. after almost 300 flips i 10x my money with 60% coin flip. for this i just used my intuition but i would approximate it as "half kelly" but also keeping the bets low until the nest egg "stabilizes"pic.twitter.com/Z2uQQSFDPb
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here's my first kelly attempt (w/ 60% heads kelly is 20% bet pet flip) i basically give up when i lose half the capitalpic.twitter.com/VyW7fcMVRx
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here's a kelly that succeeds. it DID take a shorter time. 129 flips vs 300 but it felt MUCH longer because of the disheartening drops.pic.twitter.com/6iL63ZOfX8
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so while kelly betting does mathematically give you the greatest return in the shortest time, this is "clock time" vs "internal time". your internal state and how well you deal with frustration is much more important than the maximally fastest path
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My two goes at this I bet on heads every time (not knowing beforehand that it was better), bet ~50% each time and got there in 15 and 27 flips. DID I JUST PROVE KELLY WRONG?! (p-values aren't to be trusted, this is totally a legit conclusion)
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Replying to @phantom_opus @a_yawning_cat
Fine. Try 3 took 83 flips. *huffs*
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Extrapolating this trend, I confidently predict my next go would take me >300 flips, so I'm calling it a night.
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Still, my method really does intuitively seem way faster than your Kelly attempt. Is there anything to it, or just blind luck/random fluctuations? (I do trust maths for this kind of thing, but trusting a specific claim means trusting their assumptions match your situation ofc)
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i don't know the math behind this but b/c of the cap it says a 12% bet actually has a higher probability of reaching the max: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion#cite_ref-10:~:text=In%20this%20particular%20game%2C%20because%20of,and%20an%20average%20payout%20of%20%24242.03 … so it doesn't actually maximize time like i thought but probability within X flips
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since this is a rigged game so long as you don't reach zero, given infinite time you'll have infinite money. perhaps 50% is faster but has a lower probability of hitting the max within 300 flips or something.
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So it looks like Kelly is right in the long run for this setup: I think it must be that betting ~50% has higher volatility so I hit the 10x by chance quite quickly, but would quickly drop again. So if the target was higher, eg to 100x your money, Kelly would probably win.
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