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they all poked fun at these Fields of Virtue but also occasionally exposed a kind of 'sharpness' like when a cat occasionally exposes its claws. (in taleb's case, often outright aggression)

actually taleb(specifically black swan) was probably the disillusionment towards authority. (schooling, the financial system, etc...) the philosophy disillusionment is much more recent and feels like it was a spontaneous realization around the time of:https://twitter.com/a_yawning_cat/status/1333339180601020416 …

religion is another one. (went to multiple christian groups as a kitten) i differentiate it from spirituality in that it is often Named and has Names for Important Things. e.g. rather than use relationships as the Binding Element it uses sacred Artifacts, Rules, and Virtues

spirituality for me also seems tightly bound to psychology even though from usage they are separate fields. if i had to differentiate, mainstream 'psychology' is about how to adjust and cope to society while spirituality is about escaping it. acceptance vs freedom.

psychology attempts to use acceptance as the gateway to freedom while spirituality uses freedom as a gateway to acceptance.

this seems to jordan peterson's achilles heel. trying to force acceptance as a means of freedom doesn't work because it creates an extremely negative reaction from others that can kill you.

e.g. his personal sense of self as someone bravely doing the right thing has basically been shredded and murdered into burning hate devil man by popular rhetoric so while i empathize, i also keep the claw socks on to avoid nuclear level faux pas accidents.

(w/o postrationalism this is where i'd blame all the "stupid people" and imply but not directly say that they should be euthanized.)https://twitter.com/a_yawning_cat/status/1316660458401812481 …