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For a computer, the code "exists" as a pattern of electrical charge on intricately carved silicon. Yet it doesn't "exist" without some sort of interpreter/observer just like the color blue doesn't exist w/o something to interpret that frequency of light.

One way of resolving this is by creating a parallel world outside of reality. Let's call it the Spirit World. This "Spirit World" is basically everything that *doesn't* exist in reality and only exists in terms of relationships. A observers/acts-on/etc.. B.

In that sense, spirituality isn't about going into the spirit world but LEAVING it. It's about having control about leaving/entering it and this relies on ONE crucial ability: The ability to recognize that you are IN it. (OF it, to be more precise)

When the spirit world and reality merge, you get a state of "Flow". A: https://twitter.com/a_yawning_cat/status/1344727248750821377 … B:https://twitter.com/a_yawning_cat/status/1344727250340433920 …

(Note that not thinking too much, getting out of your mind so that you don't "choke", etc... is just the secular understanding of the leaving the "Spirit World" metaphor.)

It's not that A is more real than B or vice versa but that everything in the "Spirit World" is JUST as real as "You". And how "real" you want to be you have some control over. It's how seriously you take yourself and others.