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18/ Garsius Bound by the infatuation of awareness being aware of awareness recursive fractal trap. Self becoming infatuated with the mechanism of self in a attempt to transcend itself.

19/ Greg(G) G: There is no Greg to get upset, only a process of mental and physical phenomena. And yet, there is still the behaviour as if there is a Greg! Mechanism is seen but unconditioning "I" is slow. Is there a faster way? E: y u mediate?

G: ' to bring 'not doing' awareness into this life. E: 'u' and 'life' separate? There is a 'thing' 'u' need to 'do'? G: How can life and I be separate. True separation is impossible, only an illusion. E: spouting dogma & intellectual talk you are. you must really investigate.

G: mind is a spoiled child, it must learn. E: u are making a 'good' change? G: meditation opens space in the mind for pure awareness. E: there is *only* pure awareness, no opening is necessary. what is outside of pure awareness?

G: nothing can be know outside awareness but why jump to the conclusion that awareness is all there is. E: not trying to prove anything to you, you must see for yourself. who is there to be liberated? G: body is slightly nervous at being questioned. useless conditioned response

E: what do you want? we're not trying to prove anything to each other. what are you trying to find? what is not yet here? G: the end of my suffering. I know it's not really 'my' suffering, still, suffering occurs and when it occurs there is a 'me' that experiences it.

E: How do you see the end of suffering? G: a long fantastic mind state that is not reactive to anything. I am now confused... Is the noting of my suffering still suffering? Aha! every time sth seems to be missing, the thought that perceives this always has an 'I'!

G: e.g. if unhappiness exists then it just IS. However if "I" am unhappy than "I" is missing 'happy'. The presence of the "I" is what causes the feeling of missing sth and the desire to seek something! E: Did you ever exist. What is "I"?