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P: 'selfing' is a behavior, a verbal/cognitive discourse based in language. "I" is just a word pointing to nothing just like a blank check. E: cool : ) See how nothing has changed for Life? No self as angel, just free — an embodiment free of self. ty for liberating consciousness

* Very smooth as well, gurus lightly held.

18/ Garsius Bound by the infatuation of awareness being aware of awareness recursive fractal trap. Self becoming infatuated with the mechanism of self in a attempt to transcend itself.

19/ Greg(G) G: There is no Greg to get upset, only a process of mental and physical phenomena. And yet, there is still the behaviour as if there is a Greg! Mechanism is seen but unconditioning "I" is slow. Is there a faster way? E: y u mediate?

G: ' to bring 'not doing' awareness into this life. E: 'u' and 'life' separate? There is a 'thing' 'u' need to 'do'? G: How can life and I be separate. True separation is impossible, only an illusion. E: spouting dogma & intellectual talk you are. you must really investigate.

G: mind is a spoiled child, it must learn. E: u are making a 'good' change? G: meditation opens space in the mind for pure awareness. E: there is *only* pure awareness, no opening is necessary. what is outside of pure awareness?

G: nothing can be know outside awareness but why jump to the conclusion that awareness is all there is. E: not trying to prove anything to you, you must see for yourself. who is there to be liberated? G: body is slightly nervous at being questioned. useless conditioned response

E: what do you want? we're not trying to prove anything to each other. what are you trying to find? what is not yet here? G: the end of my suffering. I know it's not really 'my' suffering, still, suffering occurs and when it occurs there is a 'me' that experiences it.