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P: There is no I", just looking...when 'looking', there is no past or present as these are just ways of referencing the looker. Many other concepts are unnecessary. Suffering has no place to grab on. E: great, now what is 'self', what is 'I'?

P: 'selfing' is a behavior, a verbal/cognitive discourse based in language. "I" is just a word pointing to nothing just like a blank check. E: cool : ) See how nothing has changed for Life? No self as angel, just free — an embodiment free of self. ty for liberating consciousness

* Very smooth as well, gurus lightly held.

18/ Garsius Bound by the infatuation of awareness being aware of awareness recursive fractal trap. Self becoming infatuated with the mechanism of self in a attempt to transcend itself.

19/ Greg(G) G: There is no Greg to get upset, only a process of mental and physical phenomena. And yet, there is still the behaviour as if there is a Greg! Mechanism is seen but unconditioning "I" is slow. Is there a faster way? E: y u mediate?

G: ' to bring 'not doing' awareness into this life. E: 'u' and 'life' separate? There is a 'thing' 'u' need to 'do'? G: How can life and I be separate. True separation is impossible, only an illusion. E: spouting dogma & intellectual talk you are. you must really investigate.

G: mind is a spoiled child, it must learn. E: u are making a 'good' change? G: meditation opens space in the mind for pure awareness. E: there is *only* pure awareness, no opening is necessary. what is outside of pure awareness?

G: nothing can be know outside awareness but why jump to the conclusion that awareness is all there is. E: not trying to prove anything to you, you must see for yourself. who is there to be liberated? G: body is slightly nervous at being questioned. useless conditioned response