E.g. if a group that encourages sexual diversity also tries to lecture other groups on politics and philosophy, then it oversteps its bounds in a way. You have to agree on 3 axis in order to truly feel like you belong.
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Back to the raft and rope metaphor: The mass of humanity is basically all the rafts in this giant sea. How BIG this sea is really needs to be felt.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i93Z7zljQ7I&ab_channel=HarryEvett …
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The reason unknown/death/loneliness is the same is because courage is the distance one can leave the mass of humanity. The farther you can go from the shore, the more skilled you are. You are a Great Explorer of the Unknown.
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A Great Explorer who doesn't come back however is not a Great Explorer. It is Someone Who Died Doing Something Stupid. It is someone who went Insane.
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The point of going into the void is to bring some light and warmth back, not to be swallowed by it, or to come back a screaming meteor lighting the town on fire.
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Setting a boundary is like: "Hail there good sir, I see you too are headed towards the Void of Death" "Aye, that I am. Good to meet you. I am a grower of Apples." "Apples, you say, how wonderful. I am a grower of oranges."
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To acknowledge an individual means to accept that every One will have a terrific life (terror filled) no matter what happens.
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Initiation rituals like spartan children surviving in the wilderness have this at their core. It is a brutal test, but the results create individuals fast and hard.
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We have more subtle and non life-threatening methods nowadays. Of course... they fail when teachers are just stamping A's on tests.
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Instead of being eaten by wolves you drown in debt and the terror of homelessness. The "punishment" for not learning about personal responsibility and compound interest.
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The gatekeepers are right. Such egregious stupidity and immaturity will lower the bar for all of society. The teachers are to blame. Punish them. Lower their pay. Maybe that'll solve the problem.
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The spirit of Slavery is like rounding up a bunch of rafters as food to exploit. E.g you create a massive group of stupid people like you would a cattle farm. Everyday you choose a select slice of Wagyu Beef to enjoy.
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Stopping this thread here for now. Key idea I wanted to pull on was the "Rope as Boundary" paradox and the "Fundamental Loneliness" issue. There's possibly more interesting ideas in the "Humanity as Rafts" analogy.
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Addendum thought: The most we can ask of another is "Tell me what you see". We can't literally "See" how someone else's consciousness is interpreting photons. The greater our mastery of this "rope" of English, the more 'alive' our interaction is despite its low fidelity.
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E.g., with enough brainpower, we can communicate with 0s and 1s and describe infinitely detailed ideas. (But the 'Truth' of what someone elses sees is a whole different level of infinity.)
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