> but I guess in a non-political/non-state context I tend to think people should be left to do their own thing. It’s relatively harmless. Not that you were saying otherwise. I am pondering out loud.
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I appreciate your ponderances. Yes, being honest and courteous seems much more natural. I suppose part of my own discomfort around this issue is that my natural mode of speech is overly formal, idiosyncratic, generally open and often emphatic. Has been since I was young. >
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> Now, that - reportedly - can come off as a bit weird and/or arrogant, in several contexts. I don't spend a lot of time around dharma people but I can find it quite uncomfortable not being able to talk openly. People are too busy pretending they don't know anything. >
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> luckily, my mentor & teacher seem more interested in an open, honest exchange about practice. I've taken your point about D-K anxiety in a wonky direction. Yesterday I said to a friend that I don't understand why even great yogis say they have no experience (≠ non-bragging) >
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> this is rather different to my experience of martial artists, or meditators from non-himalayan traditions, strangely. I just think it's a bit of a shame if this is a barrier to open conversation. I'll get bored of my issue with this eventually haha >
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> thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, Rin'dzin. Food for thought! Now, time for me to find food and coffee, because I can feel the coherence of my thinking vanishing away at a rapid rate
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Interesting conversation. As a Vajrayana practitioner I find myself having two kinds of humility. First is cultural neurosis, based on my Finnishness, where showing pride is seen as negative thing. Something to be despised. >
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> This is a very unproductive, depressive attitude, and I don't think I am completely free of it. An its is not particularly holy thing, e.g. I have a PhD in theoretical astrophysics but I honestly feel stupid, and untallented most of times >
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> Then there is healthier humility. It is of not making a big issue of whatever meditation accomplishments I might have. No because of being holy, but by acknowledging that it rarely help on communicating those things >
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> and because I don't think the path has a linear progression. One tends to both over and underestimate oneself depending on day and situation. Therefore, it feels most helpful to not make it complicated. Excuse me for barging in. Thank you and sorry!
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This reflects my experience too. I think you put it very well indeed.
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