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    1. Emanuel Rylke‏ @emareaf Jun 16

      Stage 3 institutions do not have explicit boundaries and they encompass all of life. In this way they function kinda like a dialect continuum where they slowly blend into each other and you only get sharp boundaries where people don't interact with each other.

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    2. Emanuel Rylke‏ @emareaf Jun 16

      Stage 4 institutions have explicit boundaries and they encompass all of one aspect of life. ex: being a student at a university is explicit and exclusive while at the same time independent of your employment.

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    3. Emanuel Rylke‏ @emareaf Jun 16

      Internet institutions might be a possible model for stage 5 institutions where specific actions are explicit part of one institution but the person itself is not other than having the permission to participate in that institution.

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    4. Emanuel Rylke‏ @emareaf Jun 16

      This implies that stage 5 institutions function without any commitment of its members to it. This seems right but I haven't really thought it through.

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    5. Emanuel Rylke‏ @emareaf Jun 16

      In stage 3 you're committed to the current social situation. In stage 4 you are committed to systems to the extend you're acting in a domain they're claiming applicability to. In stage 5 there is no commitment other than to being aware.

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    6. Emanuel Rylke‏ @emareaf Jun 16

      So yes it seems to me that stage 5 institutions will be voluntary institutions. This will limit them. Compare and contrast how stage 4 institutions are limited by their inability to spontaneously expand their domain of action.

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    7. Emanuel Rylke‏ @emareaf Jun 16

      So in the same way that stage 4 institutions do not completely replace stage 3 ones, stage 5 ones might not extinct all stage 4 ones.

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    8. Emanuel Rylke‏ @emareaf Jun 16

      (cc @ssica3003, @Meaningness)

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    9. Jessica‏ @ssica3003 Jun 17
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      Seems right to me too. Like very much the points your draw here. Most voluntary institutions seem limited in their own ways, esp by their unloyal(?) members. So, stage 5 things might expand and contract into some heady territory, but only for a while.

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    10. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness Jun 17
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      Good point about the limitations of voluntary institutions (@_awbery_ is eloquent on this point having coordinated several). The Gigantic Chart says “Transitory organizations spontaneously assemble within a durable social infrastructure matrix” fwiwpic.twitter.com/HLuZMdQFUR

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      Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ Jun 17
      Replying to @Meaningness @ssica3003 @emareaf

      Maybe the stage 4 institutionalised commitment is more akin to system loyalty, & becomes capacity to commit to specific activiy in st 5 structures. In a context of flexibility, commitment is localised.

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        1. Emanuel Rylke‏ @emareaf Jun 17
          Replying to @_awbery_ @Meaningness @ssica3003

          I hadn't seen this when I replied to your other tweet. Something I have to ponder about.

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