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    1. Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ May 29

      Systems are inherently nebulous. Some seem more fixed and rigid than others: their vulnerability is less visible. But they are always less solid, separate continuous and defined than they appear.

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    2. Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ May 29

      Systems are inherently nebulous *because* they are social, built from contextual demand. Systems all have an invisible mould, it’s their alter-ego. Each system’s alter-ego is a facet of its nebulosity.

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    3. Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ May 29

      Catastrophic systemic collapse often involves willful blindness to a changed environment - but not always. It’s also true that an evolving society sees the lumbering, stupid, heavy alter-ego of its systems. The invisible mould becomes embarrassingly, painfully visible.

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    4. Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ May 29

      The crowds gathered at the Berlin Wall in 1989 were *literally* waiting at that check point. They knew how things were. They’d been waiting for years already:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bN9ZRj3NBs …

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    5. Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ May 29

      In But can a machine play? @jesswatmiller exposes the alter-ego of two different system types built for bodies:https://autotranslucence.wordpress.com/2018/05/28/but-can-a-machine-play/ …

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    6. Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ May 29

      There is no right or wrong system, but there’s different fit. Some have a strong, more clearly defined mould, some are easily adaptable. The type of mould dictates how we relate with them.

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      Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ May 29

      Capacity to be moulded by a system is important and necessary. As an aspect of psychological development in the Kegan framework it’s the basic requirement for Stage 4 participation. This is an act of submission, of surrender, unappealing to many and a key point of resistance.

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        1. Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ May 29

          The transition into systems mode is blocked by resistance to the rigid aspect of the system: the requirement to just ‘follow the rules’ or understand what the machine needs to make it work.

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        2. Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ May 29

          From the warmth of ad-hoc communal responsiveness, accepting the imposition of the system looks anally retentive, boringly pedantic. And of course, it is! For someone in this position, the point is to heck, this needs at least another hundred tweets. Maybe I should start a blog.

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        3. Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ May 29

          Anyhow I’m sure you can extrapolate the rest of this thread of logic through, into and beyond systems-thinking in relation to the two axes of mould/structure of the system and the adaptablity/structure of the individual in relation to the system.

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        2. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor May 29
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          For people who have (a) gone through a system, (b) recognized its flaws, and (c) have subsequently become meta-systematic, can they help design better (less rigid and dogmatic) systems for getting people into and through stage 4?

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        3. Rin'dzin‏ @_awbery_ May 29
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          Yes. I think there’s a pressing need for more conscious, deliberate delivery mechanisms for transition. Socially embedded institutional routes are less reliable than they used to be in this regard (academia, life-long company careers for example).

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