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    1. Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg‏Verified account @TheRaDR Oct 22

      Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg Retweeted Caroline O.

      We knew he was a nationalist but it is nonetheless chilling to learn that he now openly embraces the term. Especially in the context of going after globalists, which means Jews.https://twitter.com/rvawonk/status/1054528956962091008 …

      Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg added,

      Caroline O. @RVAwonk
      Speaking at Ted Cruz's rally in Texas, Trump rails against "globalism", then tells the crowd: "There's this word -- nationalist. I'm not supposed to use it, but I'm a nationalist. I'm a nationalist." Then tells the crowd to use the word: "Use it, use it."
      35 replies 330 retweets 728 likes
    2. ice9‏ @__ice9 Oct 22
      Replying to @TheRaDR

      Disagree. More about economic policy. Probably trying to keep the base distracted with cultural platitudes while the tariffs start to bite more.

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    3. Rebecca Shapiro‏ @BeccaRAlice Oct 22
      Replying to @__ice9 @TheRaDR

      Weimar was about economics as well.

      1 reply 2 retweets 13 likes
    4. ice9‏ @__ice9 Oct 23
      Replying to @BeccaRAlice @TheRaDR

      Vast oversimplification. Moreover, the only genuine scapegoating I see here is against foreign manufacturers and illegal immigration. The 'globalist' term is used against the ideology of open borders -- vs. earlier 'internationalism' collaborating at a distance.

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      ice9‏ @__ice9 Oct 23
      Replying to @__ice9 @BeccaRAlice @TheRaDR

      Globalism itself is largely about economics as well, granted-- greater levels of access tend to promote greater synergies in production and development. But proper strategy is required. Naive openness leads to exploitation by economic dynamics-- impersonal equilibria.

      5:57 AM - 23 Oct 2018
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        2. ice9‏ @__ice9 Oct 23
          Replying to @__ice9 @BeccaRAlice @TheRaDR

          Anyway-- to your point, yes, economic pressures on the lower middle class can indeed pose real danger to the upper and upper middle classes and to groups that on average tend to be associated with them. But that is an argument for avoiding cutting them off....

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        3. ice9‏ @__ice9 Oct 23
          Replying to @__ice9 @BeccaRAlice @TheRaDR

          One may debate the means, but at a bare minimum it must be acknowledged that illegal immigration by low-skilled workers has been repeatedly demonstrated to reduce employment rates and compensation among the existing lower middle class. Shoring up policy there is protective.

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        4. Stephen but spooky‏ @stephenb2006 Oct 23
          Replying to @__ice9 @BeccaRAlice @TheRaDR

          Source?

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        5. ice9‏ @__ice9 Oct 23
          Replying to @stephenb2006 @BeccaRAlice @TheRaDR

          Here are some empirical studies-- http://www.nber.org/chapters/c11773.pdf … https://www.dallasfed.org/assets/documents/research/papers/2003/wp0302.pdf … Even the Urban Institute admits there is large scale displacement and declining workforce participation among lower skilled natives-- https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/46381/411426-Trends-in-the-Low-Wage-Immigrant-Labor-Force---.PDF …

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        6. ice9‏ @__ice9 Oct 23
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          Of course, there are plenty of 'simulation' papers trying to claim the opposite, but this is meaningless against actual empirical data. I can simulate a world with whichever rules I wish, but that does not make it real.

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        7. Stephen but spooky‏ @stephenb2006 23h23 hours ago
          Replying to @__ice9 @BeccaRAlice @TheRaDR

          The Urban study doesn't support that point and actually more strongly indicates other sources. I honestly didn't read the Nber. It's from the 1980s and let's be honest, cocaine fueled ravings from back when racism was considered funny won't convince anyone (except Infowars fans)

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