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    1. Tom X Hart‏ @tomxhart Jul 22
      Replying to @tomxhart @_Vimothy_

      ...level. The EU doesn’t even fulfill the basic requirements of being an old-style state, let alone something new. Let the old men of the EU move their marinara chess pieces around their imaginary board. The nomads are remaking Europe.

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    2. Vimothy‏ @_Vimothy_ Jul 22
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      the requirements of being a state are not static, and those "marinara chess pieces" have done more damage than your immigrant war-machine, which is an epiphenomenon of the drive to totalise and globalise the liberal state

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    3. Tom X Hart‏ @tomxhart Jul 22
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      I don’t doubt my old men are still powerful, just not as much as they think. And I wouldn’t characterise the migrants as an “immigrant war machine”. Violence associated with mass migration is just one possibility, there are others—though I chose the most dramatic.

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    4. Tom X Hart‏ @tomxhart Jul 22
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      I tend to see the ability of a state to defend territory as being a constant feature across time, though other aspects probably do change. Do you see the EU as part of a project to globalise the liberal state?

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    5. Vimothy‏ @_Vimothy_ Jul 22
      Replying to @tomxhart

      basically yes, or at least to expand its logic as far as it can go

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    6. Tom X Hart‏ @tomxhart Jul 22
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      I think it is part of that, often under the rubric of “governance”. However, the actual execution has been ad hoc and ramshackle. It’s a utopian project, like the USSR but soft. It’s also a managerial extension of the US Empire. This liberal project is in recession now, I think.

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    7. Vimothy‏ @_Vimothy_ Jul 23
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      I agree with this. the liberal project is a mess and probably cannot support its own internal contradictions for much longer (eg the pretence of neutrality is wearing thin), but this is not the same as the state disappearing. the state and the form of the state are not the same

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    8. Tom X Hart‏ @tomxhart Jul 23
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      Yes, liberalism must be hegemonic while pretending to be value neutral. This is in crisis and liberals know it. Could you expand on what you mean by the state and the form of the state not being the same and also tell me where you got the idea from, please?

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    9. Vimothy‏ @_Vimothy_ Jul 23
      Replying to @tomxhart

      The state takes on different forms over time. For example, the state today is not the same as the state in the 20th C, which was not the same as the state in the 19th C, and so on.

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    10. Vimothy‏ @_Vimothy_ Jul 23
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      one could even group the evolution of the state over time into distinct epochs - philip bobbit calls these "constitutional orders" - so the imperial, colonialist state of the 19th century gives rise to the demotic nation state of the 20th century, which gives rise to ...

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      Vimothy‏ @_Vimothy_ Jul 23
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      whatever it gives rise to (bobbit calls this the 'market state'). this seems correct to me bc the problems the state is trying to solve today are very different than in the past, in part bc of the success of past solutions

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        1. Vimothy‏ @_Vimothy_ Jul 23
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          for eg, the success of liberalism in the last century gives rise to the "second golden age of globalisation" (not a phrase you hear much any more), which leads to a new set of global crises involving terrorism, finance and immigration

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