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    1. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 19
      Replying to @Gregory_Malchuk @ReyosB and

      Their chronic infections can’t be solved by operation. Male infections can. That’s why the law is different. Not an equality issue.

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    2. Gregory Malchuk‏ @Gregory_Malchuk Oct 19
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @ReyosB and

      Yes they can. Destroying the infected tissue by definition can end vaginal infections, and Indonesian doctors claim it reduces UTIs.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 19
      Replying to @Gregory_Malchuk @ReyosB and

      But that’s not the tissue that female circumcision removes. I’m sure if you removed the whole female urinary tract it would remove the infection. And reduce risk of UTIs. Because they’d be dead. That isn’t a real operation, you’re making up a procedure.

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    4. Gregory Malchuk‏ @Gregory_Malchuk Oct 19
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @ReyosB and

      No, merely the edges of the labia.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 19
      Replying to @Gregory_Malchuk @ReyosB and

      Those parts aren’t affected by infections, the tissue on the inside of the urinary tract is.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 19
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @Gregory_Malchuk and

      How about under the clitoral hood? Why don't we cut off their prepuce and expose the clitoris for the same reason we expose the glans in males? It'd keep things in there all nice and dried out and desensitized, which y'all seem to think is a good thing for some reason.

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    7. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 19
      Replying to @KhazWolf @Gregory_Malchuk and

      Doesn’t prevent infection though.

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    8. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 19
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @Gregory_Malchuk and

      How would you know that? lol. Have there been studies on it?

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 19
      Replying to @KhazWolf @Gregory_Malchuk and

      I mean, from what I gather the clitoral hood isn’t a part of the urinary tract.

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    10. Ghost Orchid‏ @dlindenii Oct 20
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @KhazWolf and

      The clit hood can get infected. Surgery isn't done for this condition.

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      lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 21
      Replying to @dlindenii @KhazWolf and

      Is what I’m saying. You can’t do surgery to reduce female UTI rates. Female circumcision has no effect. However, whilst nobody “agrees” on the number, there’s a fair few papers detailing how male circumcision reduces rates of further infection.

      3:45 AM - 21 Oct 2018
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        2. Ghost Orchid‏ @dlindenii Oct 21
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @KhazWolf and

          First of all, we don't know if removing the labia would reduce female UTI rates. But we consider it unethical to study that. That's sexism. Also, my example wasn't UTI, but clit hood infection.

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        3. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 21
          Replying to @dlindenii @KhazWolf and

          Labiaplasty is usually plastic surgery. There was a case study cited here by somebody showing it being used to treat chronic UTIs. That’s why I used it as an exception, because it is a legal exception to FGM occasionally used to treat abnormalities. Like circumcision is to MGM.

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        4. Ghost Orchid‏ @dlindenii Oct 21
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @KhazWolf and

          Two key points here you are missing: in this case the female cutting was therapeutic. Also, it was consensual. RIC is never consensual and never therapeutic. If male circ is therapeutic and ALL OTHER OPTIONS EXHAUSTED, then I'm OK with it. I doubt it's ever truly necessary.

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        5. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 21
          Replying to @dlindenii @KhazWolf and

          I agree wholeheartedly. I think the way I’m arguing my point here is making people think I’m pro to all circumcision. I’m not. If there’s anything you can do other than surgery, that should be done instead. And yes, religious circumcision should be banned.

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        6. Reyos Blackwoood‏ @ReyosB Oct 25
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @dlindenii and

          Then honestly, we all agree, this is really our point too, circumcision when there is actual medical need should be allowed, it should be banned for religious reasons, it should be banned to make him "look like dad" but instead it isn't banned, it's done before there is a problem

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        2. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 21
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @dlindenii and

          That's the thing, "disagreement" is not proof of a protective impact. Lots of papers say there is a positive effect, lots of others say there isn't, others yet say it makes you more vulnerable. Simply because MC has been studied more than FGM doesn't mean there is a real effect

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 21
          Replying to @KhazWolf @dlindenii and

          I’ve only found papers detailing how it improves rates. Weren’t you the one who quoted something like “Rates range from 1.73x to 10x reduction rate across a variety of papers”? Where are the ones showing it causing infection?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 21
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @dlindenii and

          https://www.hindawi.com/archive/2013/109846/ … 4.13: "Langerhans cells are the first line of mucosal defense. Their presence in the mucosal portion of the prepuce may explain why the overall incidence and prevalence of STIs is lower in intact men." HPV specifically:https://www.healio.com/infectious-disease/stds/news/online/%7Bee2769c4-b9b0-4daa-8eef-943c7205ed6c%7D/circumcised-men-at-twice-the-risk-for-cancer-causing-hpv-study-shows …

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        5. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 21
          Replying to @KhazWolf @_Undersized_ and

          Higher HIV risk when cut: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0201445 … https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22897699/ … http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/HIV/vanhowe4/ … Urinary tract infections, one really has to understand what they're saying here, as I explained before, tons of coufounding factors and not a huge deal:https://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/for-professionals/alleged-medical-benefits/urinary-tract-infections/ …

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        6. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 21
          Replying to @KhazWolf @_Undersized_ and

          factors such as: "Prematurity puts babies at higher risk of infections of all kinds due to their immature immune systems, and such infants are more likely to undergo catheterization ... increasing the infection risk. However, premature babies are also typically not circumcised"

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 21
          Replying to @KhazWolf @_Undersized_ and

          "The model determined that, if there were no real difference in the rate of UTIs, intact boys would be diagnosed with a UTI 4.27 times more often than circumcised boys due to such confounding factors alone. /1

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        8. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 21
          Replying to @KhazWolf @_Undersized_ and

          "The author concluded that “it is quite possible that the differences noted in the incidence of urinary tract infection between circumcised and non-circumcised boys are entirely due to confounding factors."" /2

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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