While I'm reluctant to speak for anyone but myself, I've yet to see an Intactivist argue the procedure should be outright banned, in every case. Rather infant circumcision should be banned, medical should be considered a last resort, and adult a decision for the man himself.
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Replying to @JazhuStreaming @_Undersized_ and
There's also no way to justify a 77% circumcision rate medically. Australia's is somewhere around 20-25%, still too high imo, and we don't have millions of men unable to urinate or copulate. My intact boys have had no issues, and will be in the majority as they get older.
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Replying to @JazhuStreaming @Vegaytarier and
No, you’re getting off-track here. My argument was with a self-proclaimed “intactivist” about whether or not it’s genital mutilation or a medical procedure. I then showed evidence that it was a medical procedure, not mutilation. I disagree with doing it for no reason.
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Replying to @_Undersized_ @Vegaytarier and
A procedure is only labeled as 'medical' when said procedure is medically indicated. Since, if left alone most intact men have no issues with their foreskins, if done prior to any issues being apparent, it's mutilation.
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Replying to @JazhuStreaming @_Undersized_ and
Removing a woman's breasts for no reason would be mutilation. Having a double mastectomy because you have a genetic profile that virtually guarantees early and terminal breast cancer is a medical procedure.
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Replying to @JazhuStreaming @_Undersized_ and
And even if that case, we don't do that surgery until a woman is old enough to legally consent to it.
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Replying to @JazhuStreaming @Vegaytarier and
Phimosis can be detected early. Preputioplasty would be harder than circumcision for babies. Balanitis infections can be really dangerous for babies, and if they’re one of the 11% of clinical attendees or catch it from another child, circumcision can prevent it from recurring.
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Replying to @_Undersized_ @JazhuStreaming and
Phimosis is not even diagnosable until early to mid teens. The AVERAGE age of retraction is 10 years old.
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Replying to @Gregory_Malchuk @JazhuStreaming and
You’re not mentioning balanitis. That was the main part of the statement there.
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Replying to @_Undersized_ @Gregory_Malchuk and
You are continuing to argue minutia, and I'm off to bed. There seem to be an awful lot of people that want to 'what about if' with this issue. Don't cut babies. Educate medical staff on alternatives to circumcision. Let men choose. Goodnight.
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I’m using all the what about ifs to demonstrate how it’s not that simple and a circumcision ban is a bad idea. Look, I found this discussion educational and interesting. I enjoyed talking to you, and it seems like we pretty much agree. Good night.
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