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    1. Vegaytarier‏ @Vegaytarier Oct 17
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @RonOfTheAgora and

      Although stretching is (also) part of the salve-treatment, stretching on its own can be another method of treating a phimosis. If circumcised people are able to restore their entire foreskin by stretching (over the span 4 years), you also can stretch the foreskin in scope.

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    2. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 17
      Replying to @Vegaytarier @RonOfTheAgora and

      Semantics, they’re both a part of the 70% and aren’t always effective. Circumcision is required and therefore shouldn’t be banned.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 17
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @Vegaytarier and

      Intactivists don't argue that circumcision should be banned altogether. If adult men choose to do it for cosmetic reasons that's their choice. Routine circumcision of infants is unethical. Even most medical circ's can be avoided.

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    4. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
      Replying to @JazhuStreaming @Vegaytarier and

      Are you sure you aren’t just applying the no true Scotsman fallacy? I agree with you. But I was disagreeing with the “intactivist” (that said it should be banned completely) to see if I could learn something new here.

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    5. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @Vegaytarier and

      While I'm reluctant to speak for anyone but myself, I've yet to see an Intactivist argue the procedure should be outright banned, in every case. Rather infant circumcision should be banned, medical should be considered a last resort, and adult a decision for the man himself.

      3 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    6. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
      Replying to @JazhuStreaming @_Undersized_ and

      Less than 1% of men need to be circumcised for medical reasons. All of the other proposed 'benefits' are more easily solved with good hygiene, antibiotics or condoms. Or are not significant enough to justify RIC. (Penile cancer is the rarest cancer for men, 1/100,000)

      2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    7. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
      Replying to @JazhuStreaming @_Undersized_ and

      Quick googling shows that balanitis is treatable, and avoidable with good hygiene in most cases. It's worth noting I've had multiple cases of thrush and UTIs, and no one has recommended cutting any of my genitalia as a solution. Anti-fungals and probiotics were recommended.

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    8. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
      Replying to @JazhuStreaming @Vegaytarier and

      I said chronic balanitis, not balanitis. Tonsillitis is treatable and avoidable but if you’re prone to getting it often (chronic) you get recommended to have your tonsils removed.

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    9. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @Vegaytarier and

      Yes, but many more people have 'occasional' tonsillitis than chronic. I would guess that the percentage of men diagnosed with chronic balanitis is much smaller than those with a single, treatable case.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    10. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
      Replying to @JazhuStreaming @_Undersized_ and

      And if all other avenues have been exhausted, and circumcision is all that's left, then it's a medical procedure.

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      lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
      Replying to @JazhuStreaming @Vegaytarier and

      You’ll find (by reading all of the replies I’ve written) that I agree with you. That’s why the idea that surgery should be considered before anything else isn’t my argument. I’m arguing that it is a medical procedure and has multiple valid uses, unlike female circumcision.

      4:50 AM - 18 Oct 2018
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        2. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @Vegaytarier and

          If you to argue that, I would argue then that it should be used as a last resort 'treatment', never as a prophylactic procedure. I'd like doctors to stop recommending it so quickly. It gives people the impression it's the best way to treat these problems.

          2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
        3. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
          Replying to @JazhuStreaming @Vegaytarier and

          It’s not presented like that, they ask you and according to HIPAA they have to give you the pros and cons. Educate the parents, don’t blame the doctors for doing their job. It’s not like they enjoy extra work.

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        4. Gregory Malchuk‏ @Gregory_Malchuk Oct 18
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @JazhuStreaming and

          Doctor's jobs are not performing unnecessary surgeries or genital mutilations. And doctors have the ethics education to know what they are doing is wrong.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        5. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
          Replying to @Gregory_Malchuk @JazhuStreaming and

          They don’t just “perform it”, they *have* to ask the parents. Blame them, not the poor doctor who has to listen to the baby wail.

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Ghost Orchid‏ @dlindenii Oct 18
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @Gregory_Malchuk and

          A doctor has an obligation to do no harm. In this case, he's harming for a profit.

          1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
        7. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
          Replying to @dlindenii @Gregory_Malchuk and

          They get paid per minute of surgery not per surgery and in some hospitals get paid hourly, nice slogan though.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 18
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @dlindenii and

          Circumcision is the most common surgery in America. About a million cuts per year, and each one costs the parent hundreds of dollars. The foreskin may then be sold afterwards for hundreds more yet. Circumcision is absurdly profitable. Like $600 for a 15 minute surgery?pic.twitter.com/it7giSaWTv

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        9. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
          Replying to @KhazWolf @dlindenii and

          So educate the parents and then they’ll opt out. Or restructure the American healthcare system, which is a different debate. Either way, the doctors aren’t to blame for the parent’s informed decisions.

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        2. Gregory Malchuk‏ @Gregory_Malchuk Oct 18
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @JazhuStreaming and

          Female circumcision has preventative uses which are not actually legitimate. And the definition is so broad that removing cancer on a vaginal lip would be considered female circumcision.

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        3. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
          Replying to @Gregory_Malchuk @JazhuStreaming and

          Could you explain what you meant here?

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        4. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @Gregory_Malchuk and

          In Britain, an adult woman who voluntarily got a clitoral piercing is included in FGM stats.

          1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
        5. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
          Replying to @JazhuStreaming @Gregory_Malchuk and

          Yeah, but... why do I need to know this? Have you misunderstood a part of my argument? I don’t like circumcision for no reason. I’m just bothered by the idea of a circumcision ban.

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        1. opticon9‏ @opticon9 Oct 18
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @JazhuStreaming and

          Here's evidence that female genital cutting can also have medical benefits: https://journals.lww.com/jpelvicsurgery/Abstract/2013/03000/Labioplasty_for_Hypertrophic_Labia_Minora.12.aspx … No one is against therapeutic circumcision (such instances are extremely rare anyway). We're against forced, non-therapeutic circumcision, regardless of sex.

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        1. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 18
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @JazhuStreaming and

          If a study of clinically-provided female circumcisions proved that female circumcision prevents UTIs, would you support it as a prophylactic?https://journals.lww.com/jpelvicsurgery/Abstract/2013/03000/Labioplasty_for_Hypertrophic_Labia_Minora.12.aspx …

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