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    1. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 17
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @Gregory_Malchuk and

      Here's a study on the subject of preputioplasty that "confirms its low rate of postoperative complications and its good results in terms of preputial retractability and cosmetic outcomes". https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC539601/ … I also found another cool one I'm going over now

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 17
      Replying to @KhazWolf @_Undersized_ and

      Actually the thing I was reading isn't quite finished yet, here's a clinical trial still in progress for the rest of this year: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02854995 … Guess I'll keep an eye on that

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 17
      Replying to @KhazWolf @_Undersized_ and

      Another one, suggesting preputioplasty is a "good alternative" to circumcision: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0090429508008467 … And another! https://www.fimose.org/uploads/6/5/5/4/65544215/preputioplastyinchildren.pdf … "Preputioplasty is a faster, easier, relatively painless technique with excellent cosmetic results and lesser complications than" circ

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 17
      Replying to @KhazWolf @Gregory_Malchuk and

      Nice, but the original recommended circumcision in cases of recurring infection, and the second recommended it in cases of scarring, so my point still stands. In those cases we would have to go back and circumcise you, but it would be banned- so your dick would drop off.

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    5. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 17
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @Gregory_Malchuk and

      I'm not saying it's impossible for a circumstance to occur where it could be an option, but it should be treated like cutting off an arm: an extreme solution to extreme problems when every other option has failed. Such would be absurdly rare. Routine circumcision is abhorrent

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    6. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 17
      Replying to @KhazWolf @Gregory_Malchuk and

      Only 77% of U.S. men are circumcised. It isn’t routine. It has multiple detailed, legitimate medical uses. So tell me if it fits the definition of mutilation? I’m still looking to have my mind changed here.

      10 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    7. Fool of Agora‏ @RonOfTheAgora Oct 17
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @KhazWolf and

      It has no medical uses.

      3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    8. Vegaytarier‏ @Vegaytarier Oct 17
      Replying to @RonOfTheAgora @_Undersized_ and

      In 70 % of cases, the phimosis can be treated with a prescription-free salve from the pharmacy. For the remaining 30 % there's a stretching option or foreskin-preservative operation available. Everyone who tells another story is spreading wrong informations.

      1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
    9. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 17
      Replying to @Vegaytarier @RonOfTheAgora and

      The corticosteroids are used with the stretching. That’s the 70%. Otherwise it’s time for surgery.

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    10. Vegaytarier‏ @Vegaytarier Oct 17
      Replying to @_Undersized_ @RonOfTheAgora and

      Although stretching is (also) part of the salve-treatment, stretching on its own can be another method of treating a phimosis. If circumcised people are able to restore their entire foreskin by stretching (over the span 4 years), you also can stretch the foreskin in scope.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 17
      Replying to @Vegaytarier @RonOfTheAgora and

      Semantics, they’re both a part of the 70% and aren’t always effective. Circumcision is required and therefore shouldn’t be banned.

      5:08 PM - 17 Oct 2018
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        2. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 17
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @Vegaytarier and

          Intactivists don't argue that circumcision should be banned altogether. If adult men choose to do it for cosmetic reasons that's their choice. Routine circumcision of infants is unethical. Even most medical circ's can be avoided.

          2 replies 2 retweets 8 likes
        3. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
          Replying to @JazhuStreaming @Vegaytarier and

          Are you sure you aren’t just applying the no true Scotsman fallacy? I agree with you. But I was disagreeing with the “intactivist” (that said it should be banned completely) to see if I could learn something new here.

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        4. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @Vegaytarier and

          While I'm reluctant to speak for anyone but myself, I've yet to see an Intactivist argue the procedure should be outright banned, in every case. Rather infant circumcision should be banned, medical should be considered a last resort, and adult a decision for the man himself.

          3 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
        5. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
          Replying to @JazhuStreaming @_Undersized_ and

          Less than 1% of men need to be circumcised for medical reasons. All of the other proposed 'benefits' are more easily solved with good hygiene, antibiotics or condoms. Or are not significant enough to justify RIC. (Penile cancer is the rarest cancer for men, 1/100,000)

          2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
        6. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
          Replying to @JazhuStreaming @_Undersized_ and

          Quick googling shows that balanitis is treatable, and avoidable with good hygiene in most cases. It's worth noting I've had multiple cases of thrush and UTIs, and no one has recommended cutting any of my genitalia as a solution. Anti-fungals and probiotics were recommended.

          1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
        7. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
          Replying to @JazhuStreaming @Vegaytarier and

          I said chronic balanitis, not balanitis. Tonsillitis is treatable and avoidable but if you’re prone to getting it often (chronic) you get recommended to have your tonsils removed.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @Vegaytarier and

          Yes, but many more people have 'occasional' tonsillitis than chronic. I would guess that the percentage of men diagnosed with chronic balanitis is much smaller than those with a single, treatable case.

          2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
        9. Jazhu‏ @JazhuStreaming Oct 18
          Replying to @JazhuStreaming @_Undersized_ and

          And if all other avenues have been exhausted, and circumcision is all that's left, then it's a medical procedure.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
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        2. BSR‏ @BSR163 Oct 17
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @Vegaytarier and

          What you are describing is last resort medical circumcision where there is an indication (or pathology). That's ok & shouldn't be banned if it IS last resort. Routine circumcision of HEALTHY boys is unethical and should be banned.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
          Replying to @BSR163 @Vegaytarier and

          It isn’t routine in Australia where I’m from. Like all surgeries, the parents are presented with options and are allowed to say no. You can’t make it any less routine.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. BSR‏ @BSR163 Oct 18
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @Vegaytarier and

          Ok. Try 'non-therapeutic' or 'cosmetic' then. It IS routine in USA. Where I live in the UK non-therapeutic/cosmetic circ of babies is regarded as unethical by most parents and medical staff.

          1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
        5. lmao‏ @_Undersized_ Oct 18
          Replying to @BSR163 @Vegaytarier and

          If it’s routine, then how come 33% of parents opted out of it?

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        1. Vegaytarier‏ @Vegaytarier Oct 17
          Replying to @_Undersized_ @RonOfTheAgora and

          Wrong. Skin can always be stretched - it just requires some time. Otherwise fat people would explode from eating too much. 😆

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