Watching American Idol muted with subtitles is the ultimate edge fest
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I've done this as well. But I disagree, I think we can totally see stimulus in a completely neutral manner, totally dispassionate, pain or pleasure. I've done it and it is written about a lot. Methinks you need to go deeper into the Jhanas, friend.
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Sometimes called a "ninth jhāna," nirodha samāpatti entails the complete suspension of hedonic tone and perceptual cognition. The meditator in this state appears comatose from an outside observer's perspective. From inside, there is absolutely no content whatsoever.
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i imagine it's possible to enter a pleasure jhana inspite of intense pain too, i don't count this as transcending hedonic tone, maybe declawing of it
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Hmmmm. Must do more meditation Transcendence of pain and pleasure distinctions. Dispassionate viewing of stimulus. Complete non-judgement and observation What is beyond? What remains when distinction is erased? Value of total passive observation? I posit control. Not there yet
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