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    1. joe mahoney‏ @jos_b_mahoney Jan 8
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      I think the right way to think about panpsychism is: awareness exists; there's no explanation of how it comes about except via identifying (neuro)correlations w/ instances of its manifestations. What might be going on? Not much different than early deductions about atoms.

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    2. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara Jan 8
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      Can you help me to understand how identifying awareness with basic physical stuff (quarks, strings, loops, or whatever the claim might be) offers a preferable answer? That seems to me just as mysterious. And I feel like I’m just missing something obvious.

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    3. joe mahoney‏ @jos_b_mahoney Jan 8
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      The hook (if there is one) is we seem to be in contact w/ material reality's interiority via our awareness. I'd think 'fields' are a better physical vehicle for dissociated individual conscious unity than particles. [At the same I think the project is pretty hopeless.]

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      Steven Fan‏ @_StevenFan Jan 8
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      Steven Fan Retweeted Steven Fan

      https://twitter.com/_StevenFan/status/1207537318350872576 …

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      The other possibility is that consciousness and subjective experience is a fundamental property of matter.
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        1. Steven Fan‏ @_StevenFan Apr 30
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          further elaboration with idea of ensembles supporting more complex subjectivityhttps://twitter.com/mlegls/status/1255915718291238913 …

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          yes @mlegls
          I wonder if it's not even just a "quantum" thing. By similar intuitions to this, I could relate awareness not just to waveforms, but to statistical ensembles in general. But that's super far-off & vague speculation that most likely leads nowhere. https://twitter.com/_StevenFan/status/1207547203553644545?s=20 …
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        2. Steven Fan‏ @_StevenFan Jan 8
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          didn't put it into words but there's a thread here I'd like you to look at its probably wrong but hopefully interesting

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        3. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara Jan 8
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          I see what you’re doing there, but that seems to me to be too impoverished to count as an experience. I think so much in this area ends up turning on intuitions about word meaning. And my thinking was certainly polluted by early engagements with William James...

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