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    1. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 26 Nov 2018
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      *Even if* somebody went around saying, "I demand you call me 'she' and furthermore I claim to have two X chromosomes!", which none of my trans colleagues have ever said to me by the way, it still isn't a question-of-empirical-fact whether she should be called "she". It's an act.

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    2. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 26 Nov 2018
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      In saying this, I am not taking a stand for or against any Twitter policies. I am making a stand on a hill of meaning in defense of validity, about the distinction between what is and isn't a stand on a hill of facts in defense of truth.

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    3. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 26 Nov 2018
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      I will never stand against those who stand against lies. But changing your name, asking people to address you by a different pronoun, and getting sex reassignment surgery, Is. Not. Lying. You are *ontologically* confused if you think those acts are false assertions.

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    4. Eric Dimodica‏ @Demandred27 26 Nov 2018
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      You should speak with @EricRWeinstein. I'd love to hear that conversation. Perhaps it isn't about pronouns. Perhaps there's a bigger picture. Twitter et al are carving out the framework for a new form of authoritarianism. Slowly but surely eroding what can and can't be discussed

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    5. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 26 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @Demandred27 @EricRWeinstein

      You could argue that a wise policy is that we should all be called by terms and pronouns we don't like, now and then, and that to do otherwise is coddling. You could argue that Twitter shouldn't try to enforce courtesy. You could accuse, that's not what Twitter is really doing.

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    6. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 26 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @ESYudkowsky @Demandred27 @EricRWeinstein

      But Twitter is at least not *ontologically confused* if they say that using preferred pronouns is courtesy, and claim that they're enforcing a courtesy standard. Replying "That's a lie! I will never lie!" is confused. It'd be sad if the #IDW died on that hill of all hills.

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    7. Eric Weinstein‏Verified account @EricRWeinstein 26 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @ESYudkowsky @Demandred27

      Be courteous. Use preferred pronouns where expected which is most places and situations. But this is not the issue.

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    9. Steven Fan‏ @_StevenFan 26 Nov 2018
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      Because it is kind and costs nothing.

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      Steven Fan‏ @_StevenFan 26 Nov 2018
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      I think kindness in social interactions promotes a higher good than being right about labels. That's my integrity.

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