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    1. Yossi Kreinin‏ @YossiKreinin 30 Sep 2016
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      People afraid of rogue AI (not rogue people using AI) don't understand desire. Machines don't want shit, and emulating desire is too hard.

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    2. Enhex‏ @Enhex 1 Oct 2016
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      Wrong. The problem is autonomous learning and not being able to control what it decides to learn and how.

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    3. Yossi Kreinin‏ @YossiKreinin 1 Oct 2016
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      A program reading data and updating its state? Not scary, & no chance to learn the goal "kill all humans" (a desire we're born with)

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    4. Enhex‏ @Enhex 1 Oct 2016
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      It can have physical agency, and decide to learn anything. There's nothing magical about humans, brain systems are computable

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    5. Enhex‏ @Enhex 1 Oct 2016
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      Real ex: In @DeepMindAI's Space Invaders the AI learns to kill to achieve its goal. Can learn the same outside of a game

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    6. Yossi Kreinin‏ @YossiKreinin 1 Oct 2016
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      Killing IRL is a bit harder than in Space Invaders, especially through massive trial & error. How'd that unfold, exactly?

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    7. Enhex‏ @Enhex 1 Oct 2016
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      I don't know, but I already showed you an AI can learn that. There are already similar AIs that can handle 3D environments

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    8. Yossi Kreinin‏ @YossiKreinin 1 Oct 2016
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      The point is you didn't show ROGUE AI learning to kill. The goal was to win in Space Invaders. Killing wasn't rogue.

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    9. Enhex‏ @Enhex 1 Oct 2016
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      Definition for rogue AI? If you mean out of control I already mentioned autonomous = no control to begin with

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      Yossi Kreinin‏ @YossiKreinin 1 Oct 2016
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      "No control" fits everything, I can't say I control my desktop. By "rogue" I mean AI NOT DESIGNED to kill millions that WILL.

      2:01 PM - 1 Oct 2016
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        1. Enhex‏ @Enhex 1 Oct 2016
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          so you mean unintended consequences of the system? Standard ex is spam AI deciding to kill humans to stop all spam

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        2. Yossi Kreinin‏ @YossiKreinin 1 Oct 2016
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          Killing people to stop spam? Spam filters have no actuators other than "mark email as Spam." How do they kill their first 1M humans?

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