For what it's worth, though, I suspect that this is less one-way than sometimes suspected: It's men feeling threatened by the success of their partners. But it's also women who want partners who are more successful then them. Both inherited from long-standing gender roles.
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@clairlemon Nooooooo! I was curious enough to look this up and it's the new thing from the Cat Person person! You made me read a chunk of its! Ugh it's awful -
I forgot what this was. But now I 'member. Shame on you
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You would benefit from reading something about evolutionary biology, or just biology at least. It has very little or nothing to do with men feeling threatened by success.
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Do you think it’s some sort of miracle that across cultures women select overwhelmingly taller man then they? This is the problem with people that assume all our behavior is just driven by culture, its way deeper than that.
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It’s the other way around: biology or human nature drives culture.
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Moreover individual women have every right to desire and push for a high achieving career, or huge financial success, but there is no way to control the outcome and nobody can claim a right on the free choice of others.
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You want to fight human nature because its unfair? why don't you start with yourself? instead of looking for an intelligent and beautiful woman unfairly graced by nature, choose the least appealing one you can find. After all its unfair to discriminate based onour human instincts
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I think you're talking past the point she was making as I don't believe she was disputing anything you just said.
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Most people don't have interesting careers. They have jobs. For some reason women have this weird dream of working a fulfilling career, most men know they won't even have that they just need to survive and provide for a family.
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Because woman are strongly denying their goal is a family. Fueled by the media/all TV.
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1. This is very much a straw man, your response is barely even related to her tweet. 2. I doubt most men feel “threatened” by a potential mate’s success. It simply isn’t weighed when scaling attractiveness. The “threatened by women” trope is outdated.
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Not threatened so much as there is zero advantage reproductively from competing with women in the workplace. The more successful a woman is, the smaller group of highly successful men that she will look to for a relationship.
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Plus, male drive to succeed in the workplace is driven by the desire to rise to the top of their relative dominance hierarchies. Competing with women achieves exactly nothing in this endeavour.
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What evidence do you have that men are "threatened"? Maybe it's simply not relevant. Maybe there are other features that men look for in a woman that are more important. And even if there is negative correlation between those features, it does not = causation.
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This isn't arguing that men feel "threatened" by a woman's success. It's arguing that men don't care either way. Women can want to be the CEO of Fortune 500 Companies. But whether you do or not isn't going to be factored into whether a man decides to offer to buy you a drink.
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I’d like to meet these men who don’t want a successful woman. I’ve never met one in real life; no man has ever expressed this to me. Rather, they *desire* successful women. In fact, too many female friends of mine have had the experience of being left for a more successful woman.
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You look like a successful person. Chances are you surround yourself with others who value success.
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You're talking past her. Point is not: Should women want these things but: Do men find these things attractive in women (does it make her more attractive if she has financial security/a highpaying career)?
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