There’s so much more than can be explained in a tweet. Did you watch the clip above? I try to explain it. Under fundamentalist Islam a women should not be seen, heard, or smelled by any man other than her husband. Banning it actually frees women from the obligation to wear it.
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Replying to @YasMohammedxx @ConfessionsExMu and
I do understand. And there are - frankly - a lot of things that religions ask of their adherents I think are deeply bad for them, and are counter-productive and dangerous and limiting. And I wish they didn’t believe in them or want to engage in them.
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Replying to @tomcoates @NorthCaliGrl and
To me it’s akin to the laws that demand medical practitioners treat children from Jehovas Witness families whether their parents consent or not. Parents are obviously happy that the law is going to ensure their children are cared for-and their religious conscious can stay clear.
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Replying to @YasMohammedxx @tomcoates and
Women can now say to the men in their lives-look, I have no choice! Of course I want to wear it and please Allah, but it’s against the law so oh shucks. I wish I could have said that.
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Replying to @YasMohammedxx @ConfessionsExMu and
I can see that and if that was the clear majority view, I might even argue for it, although I don’t know how you’d work that out. But fundamentally, women aren’t children. They are allowed to make their own decisions, however bad! They shouldn’t need the state to force them!
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Replying to @tomcoates @NorthCaliGrl and
It’s not about the state forcing them. It’s about the state ensuring the security of all its citizens. Google the number of kidnappings, rapes, murders and even suicide bombings by ppl in niqab. It’s a godsend for criminals.
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Replying to @YasMohammedxx @tomcoates and
And I should add-it’s not even mainstream Islam. In fact, niqab is not allowed to be worn in prayer or hajj (2 of the 5 pillars) it’s the clothing of a far-right fundamentalist interpretation of the religion. Similar to Mormon underwear.
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Replying to @YasMohammedxx @ConfessionsExMu and
But doesn’t banning it on principle set up a basis for banning other stuff too? Won’t people argue that the chandor or hijab makes it too hard to identify people and that they should then be banned on principle too?
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Replying to @tomcoates @ConfessionsExMu and
These things, again, I don’t particularly like and I think limit people’s rights and opportunities. And again, I’d want to argue STRONGLY for people not to wear them.
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Replying to @tomcoates @ConfessionsExMu and
But arguing strongly against them and banning them from every public place in your state, whether people want them or not, seem like very different things.
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I really appreciate the conversation, Tom, but I feel like we can’t get anywhere when I’m speaking as a women who lived under fundamentalist Islam and wore a niqab. There’s a huge chasm between our understandings and experiences w the topic.
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Replying to @YasMohammedxx @tomcoates and
I wish I still had my podcast and I’d invite you on to talk it out. Twitter makes it difficult to have such a conversation.
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Replying to @YasMohammedxx @ConfessionsExMu and
I totally understand, and I have such enormous sympathy and you’re right there is a massive gulf. I can only speak through analogy with people I have met who believe strongly and passionately things I cannot understand and seem to limit and damage their own lives.
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