Simon Wessely on Twitter: "@MEJoBest @velogubbed actually the figures are better than that. Comparable with innumerable well accepted treatments in other fields" / Twitter

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Both - Psychiatry needs to stake a claim in the medical and research communities so it can help patients #LancetElection

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It's not helping #mecfs patients Simon. Suicides are not from depression but from lack of appropriate medical treatment. Please.

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But isn't it inappropriate & counterproductive to treat people w (Ramsay-defined) ME as mentally ill when they aren't?

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yes it is both of those. Which is why we don't.

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By that do you mean that you (Psychiatry profession) aren't seeing patients with myalgic encephalomyelitis?

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AbsIolutely not. I have been seeing patients with this illness for 25 years. see plosone.org/annotation/lis

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Thanks for the link, am reading ..

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I enjoyed Greg Towers summary of that study at IIMEC8. So if not treating as mentally ill, how are you treating them?

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our main Px is CBT, but we also do others. everything on our and my own website. I have to have dinner now.

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Yet studies such as PACE show CBT helps less than 10%? So back to pity resources wasted on patients not mentally ill.

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actually the figures are better than that. Comparable with innumerable well accepted treatments in other fields

7:13 AM · Mar 6, 2015Twitter for iPad

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Where will I find the figures? Any examples where comparable with first-line treatments in other fields also? Thanks.

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this is the standard work comparing drug treatment scopus.com/results/result

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Comparable to placebo:: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15784798 Maybe you need higher standards?

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The placebo response in the treatment of chronic fatigue syndrome: a systematic review and meta-a...

In contrast with the conventional wisdom, the placebo response in CFS is low. Psychological-psychiatric interventions were shown to have a lower placebo response, perhaps linked to patient expectat...

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The placebo is one of the best interventions we have..

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15% pub. 2013 (22% CBT & GET less 7% SMC) 13% overlap recovery/entry. Protocol (7% CBT 4% GET less 3% SMC) virology.ws/wp-content/upl

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