Magdalena ‏@MagdalenaDK Mar 7

@WatcherDev @WoWMonk @Hinalover @Celestalon @ArielleEJ Will the 150% effectiveness only come into effect in Arenas and BGs?

Magdalena ‏@MagdalenaDK Mar 7

@WatcherDev @WoWMonk @Hinalover @Celestalon @ArielleEJ I.e. Will open orld PvP still see 200% crits? Or 150% against all players, anywhere?

MOH13(Mads Overgård) ‏@MOH1301 Mar 7

@WatcherDev @WoWMonk @Hinalover @Celestalon @ArielleEJ Wouldn't that make it hard to balance a spec like Fury in both pvp and pve?

Wilson Chambers ‏@WilsonChambers Mar 7

@WatcherDev @WoWMonk @Hinalover @Celestalon @ArielleEJ You guys sure you want to fiddle w/crit instead of shaping burst (e.g. y=(x^3)/100)?

Watcher ‏@WatcherDev Mar 7

@WilsonChambers Burst in the abstract is often controlled. But crit is random and we need to keep the worst-case chain-crit combos in check.

Wilson Chambers ‏@WilsonChambers Mar 7

@WatcherDev That's fair, though I think you could get away with soft-limiting damage (x-axis, incoming PvP DPS; y-axis, limit of DPS taken).

Celestalon ‏@Celestalon Mar 7

@MagdalenaDK @WatcherDev @WoWMonk @Hinalover @ArielleEJ 150% against player-controlled units, anywhere.

Mione ‏@maiohnee Mar 7

@Celestalon @MagdalenaDK @WatcherDev @WoWMonk @Hinalover @ArielleEJ Does twitch chat count as a player-controlled unit? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jakob Sohn ‏@jakobsohn Mar 7

@Celestalon @MagdalenaDK @WatcherDev @WoWMonk @Hinalover @ArielleEJ What about heals out in the world? How do you determine if they are PvP?

Celestalon ‏@Celestalon Mar 7

@jakobsohn @MagdalenaDK @WatcherDev @WoWMonk @Hinalover @ArielleEJ Same as Battle Fatigue does currently.

Brusalk ‏@Brusalk Mar 7

@Celestalon @MagdalenaDK @WatcherDev @WoWMonk @Hinalover @ArielleEJ Does this mean 150% crit against MC'd players in raids like Garry MCs?

Watcher ‏@WatcherDev Mar 7

@Brusalk @Celestalon @MagdalenaDK @WoWMonk @Hinalover @ArielleEJ No, our PvP rulesets never apply in dungeons/raids.

Brusalk ‏@Brusalk Mar 7

@WatcherDev @Celestalon @MagdalenaDK @WoWMonk @Hinalover @ArielleEJ Thanks for the clarification! :)

David McGuinness ‏@DMcGuinness37 Mar 7

@WatcherDev @WilsonChambers If you're worried about chain-crit burst combos in PvP I think you guys will need to redesign Ele shaman

David McGuinness ‏@DMcGuinness37 Mar 7

@WatcherDev @WilsonChambers don't get me wrong I love my ele, but how can you claim to be trying to reduce chain burst when shaman are (1/2)

David McGuinness ‏@DMcGuinness37 Mar 7

@WatcherDev @WilsonChambers designed around random procs. LvB, mastery, echo proc, multistrike, lava surge. Design seems contrary to goal.

Wilson Chambers ‏@WilsonChambers Mar 7

@DMcGuinness37 @WatcherDev Maybe not contrary so much as too narrow. The problem is losing control of pacing, but it goes far beyond Crit.

David McGuinness ‏@DMcGuinness37 Mar 7

@WilsonChambers @WatcherDev Ya agree not crit specifically. Just mean that ele shaman are designed as a RNG chain combo class. Been saying

David McGuinness ‏@DMcGuinness37 Mar 7

@WilsonChambers @WatcherDev forever that it's poor design. It means damage can be horrible if unlucky or ridiculous if stars align.