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    The Wall Street Journal‏Verified account @WSJ Mar 30

    Tesla says autopilot was engaged in fatal crash last week, raising more questions about the safety of self-driving technologyhttps://on.wsj.com/2pRPP3F 

    7:17 PM - 30 Mar 2018
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      2. Judge Smails‏ @JudgeElihuSmail Mar 30
        Replying to @WSJ

        Nobody asked for this “technology”. I’m never having a car drive for me.

        3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Bill Sabo‏ @Billsocalif Mar 30
        Replying to @JudgeElihuSmail @WSJ

        40,000 people in the USA killed by humans last year, autonomous is better.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      4. Wojtek (voy-tech)‏ @MostlyDev Mar 30
        Replying to @Billsocalif @JudgeElihuSmail @WSJ

        Sadly untrue. The autonomous fatality rate per mile driven is looking to be worse than humans, for now. There are 40k human fatalities because humans drive trillions of miles each year.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. Bill Sabo‏ @Billsocalif Mar 30
        Replying to @MostlyDev @JudgeElihuSmail @WSJ

        Wrong, In US, 1 automotive fatality every 86 million miles across all vehicles manufacturers. Tesla’s 1 fatality, including known pedestrian fatalities, every 320 million miles with Autopilot. Tesla’s are 3.7 times less likely to be involved in a fatal accident.

        2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      6. Wojtek (voy-tech)‏ @MostlyDev Mar 30
        Replying to @Billsocalif @JudgeElihuSmail @WSJ

        Does that include this one? Or the uber death? Tesla has had to fatalities so far. How many miles have they driven on autopilot?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Bill Sabo‏ @Billsocalif Mar 30
        Replying to @MostlyDev @JudgeElihuSmail @WSJ

        First off the Uber car was not a Tesla. The numbers I have are up to date, btw do you know how many lives Tesla Autopilot has saved?

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      8. Wojtek (voy-tech)‏ @MostlyDev Mar 30
        Replying to @Billsocalif @JudgeElihuSmail @WSJ

        I wasn't being specific to Tesla in my message & I'm not sure where you get your numbers. 2 people have died on autopilot. Have Tesla cars even driven 720MM miles on autopilot? 2 samples don't make a stat, but it doesn't look great.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Bill Sabo‏ @Billsocalif Mar 30
        Replying to @MostlyDev @JudgeElihuSmail @WSJ

        I got the numbers from Tesla today. BTW, NHTSA has confirmed data from Tesla showing Autopilot version 1 vehicles reduce serious accidents and injury by 40%. You need to add all self driving cars mileage (like Waymo and others) to get an average.

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      1. proof‏ @xproofx Mar 30
        Replying to @WSJ

        Yes. These self-driving cars are unsafe. Let us stick to people driving which is totally safe and has never recorded an accident.

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      2. @MrEmo‏ @DepressionEcon Mar 30
        Replying to @WSJ

        Corporations literally running technological experiments with people's lives on the line in real-time.

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      3. Harry‏ @harry__heri Mar 30
        Replying to @DepressionEcon @WSJ

        What you're saying is true, but only partly. These "experiments" are safer than 99.9% of drivers, yourself and myself included.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      4. @MrEmo‏ @DepressionEcon Mar 30
        Replying to @harry__heri @WSJ

        This is negligence resulting in death at the VERY LEAST. However, this is a corporation that is DEEP in the pockets of regulators and politicians, penalties will be limited to relatively small fines. We are merely at the start of 4th indus/digi revolution, this is JUST THE START

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      2. Bitcoin Jedi • BTC • XRP • LTC • ETC • ADA • ETH 🚀‏ @Bitcoin_Jedi Mar 30
        Replying to @WSJ

        The government needs to be concerned about all drivers on the road that these cars can hit. This technology is nowhere ready for public use. Teslas dirty secret is they're using the roads and lives to get their beta testing done faster. Lawsuits Etc are going to bankrupt them!

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. JFL‏ @diamondscarx Mar 30
        Replying to @Bitcoin_Jedi @WSJ

        Because human drivers are so safe.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Bitcoin Jedi • BTC • XRP • LTC • ETC • ADA • ETH 🚀‏ @Bitcoin_Jedi Mar 30
        Replying to @diamondscarx @WSJ

        No, however AI can't distinguish the subtleties in the world yet. It's the tiny stuff that we naturally adjust for, a subconscious skill we take for granted that AI can't compete with yet. Until this is figured out, it's not the same as a human brain. One day it will though.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. JFL‏ @diamondscarx Mar 30
        Replying to @Bitcoin_Jedi @WSJ

        Disagree. Every day I drive I see people doing all kinds of wacky maneuvers, not paying attention, and being outright dangerous. Even at this early stage, AI is already safer per mile driven. https://www.vtti.vt.edu/featured/?p=422 

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Bitcoin Jedi • BTC • XRP • LTC • ETC • ADA • ETH 🚀‏ @Bitcoin_Jedi Mar 30
        Replying to @diamondscarx @WSJ

        And how is AI going to distinguish whether to run over a dog or a child. Sometimes breaking is not a choice. You either swerve right or left. Either hit the child or drive into the opposite lane or swerve right towards the sidewalk. Humans can make that choice. AI can't yet!

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Jonathan Johnston‏ @shadfurman Mar 30
        Replying to @Bitcoin_Jedi @diamondscarx @WSJ

        Statistically it doesnt get into those no-win scenarios as often as people do. Do you think a human will adequately make that split second decision? I've seen people almost get into accidents swerving for squirls. It's a valid critisicm, statistically humans set a very low bar.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. George Hiler‏ @georgehiler Mar 30
        Replying to @WSJ

        Considering that it was again DRIVER ERROR and not the machine, the @NTSB needs to back off. Also, @elonmusk is a great man and is still trying perfect his cars. More than anyone can say about the other brands. I want the 1st car I buy to be a #Tesla #ElonMusk

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Matthew Battle‏ @librab103 Mar 30
        Replying to @georgehiler @WSJ and

        The car ran into a cement wall instead of stopping.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. George Hiler‏ @georgehiler Mar 30
        Replying to @librab103 @WSJ and

        If you knew the whole story, you'd know that the autopilot is not a replacement and that he didn't keep his hands on the wheel or his eyes on the road. Reports show that he had 6 seconds and 150 feet to stop

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