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    The Wall Street Journal‏Verified account @WSJ Jan 21

    A U.S. Crispr trial spends nearly 2 years seeking clearance; a Chinese doctor gets OK in an afternoonhttp://on.wsj.com/2F24f7h 

    2:20 PM - 21 Jan 2018
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      2. Magenta‏ @DocMagenta Jan 21
        Replying to @WSJ

        It would have been longer in Europe. You know why, because meticulous review is quintessential for safety of patients/clinical trial participants. Priorities are different in different countries. Efficiency is important. But never at the cost of safety.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Chris (Robotbeat) 🗽 🖖🏾‏ @Robotbeat Jan 21
        Replying to @DocMagenta @WSJ

        But what about the safety of patients that currently have diseases that might be treated with this? Why isn't THAT considered?

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      4. Chris (Robotbeat) 🗽 🖖🏾‏ @Robotbeat Jan 21
        Replying to @Robotbeat @DocMagenta @WSJ

        Safety SHOULD sometimes be sacrificed if it means greater overall chance of saving life.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Val Giddings‏ @prometheusgreen Jan 22
        Replying to @Robotbeat @DocMagenta @WSJ

        you don't need to sacrifice safety to calculate a reasonable balance between risk & benefit. regulations in the US & Europe have pretty clearly gone over the top and sacrificed reward potential for little or no safety benefit. this can be fixed without following China. @BeatSpath

        2 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
      6. Beat Späth‏ @BeatSpath Jan 22
        Replying to @prometheusgreen @Robotbeat and

        Just suppose a risk assessment takes 6 years and never comes to a different conclusion than the same RA in another geography. Well this is what happens. No benefits on safety, just delaying global innovation

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Chris (Robotbeat) 🗽 🖖🏾‏ @Robotbeat Jan 22
        Replying to @BeatSpath @prometheusgreen and

        What if it takes 6 months.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Val Giddings‏ @prometheusgreen Jan 22
        Replying to @Robotbeat @BeatSpath and

        that would be much better than what we face now. the real Q to be answered is why are we still doing RAs for the thousandth iteration of something that has been grown on millions of hectares, consumed in billions of meals, never having caused a single problem?

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      2. Tim F‏ @timfblogger Jan 21
        Replying to @WSJ @Noahpinion

        Not unrelated: in China abortions are free to anyone and sometimes mandatory. You cannot separate human trials of CRISPR/Cas9 from fertility politics. The technology uses embryos, and lot of them. The research goals are a ethical mine field. Don't envy China too hard.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. JFL‏ @diamondscarx Jan 21
        Replying to @timfblogger @WSJ @Noahpinion

        I honestly don't give a fuck about embryos. China is going to eat our lunch in science in the 21st century because they have more honor students than we have students. America is further slipping by making higher education so expensive and cutting research.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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      2. Ivonne Ibarra‏ @ebonex Jan 21
        Replying to @WSJ

        This is not precisely a good thing. I would be genuinely scared of a CRISPR trial that was approved in a day.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. PhD in eyeroll‏ @gilliamwibson Jan 21
        Replying to @ebonex @WSJ

        Perfect is the enemy of good!

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Kristen Eilts‏ @kkeilts Jan 21
        Replying to @WSJ

        Isn't that @POTUS plan? Get rid of regulations that hamper innovation and commerce? Good to see some journalists support him.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Ernest Rivera‏ @ernest_riv Jan 21
        Replying to @kkeilts @WSJ @POTUS

        Maybe the question should be why those regulations were created in the first place, lest we forget.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Kristen Eilts‏ @kkeilts Jan 21
        Replying to @ernest_riv @WSJ @POTUS

        That's always the question. But you can't praise China's lack of regulations without acknowledging Americans trying to do the same thing.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Ernest Rivera‏ @ernest_riv Jan 21
        Replying to @kkeilts @WSJ @POTUS

        I'd be hesitant to praise China for this as they view individual safety and life a bit differently.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Kristen Eilts‏ @kkeilts Jan 21
        Replying to @ernest_riv @WSJ @POTUS

        That's the point. WSJ makes headline about 2 yr approval wait for US scientist but China gives it in few hours. WSJ thinks regulations bad.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      1. Brenda  🌊‏ @BrendaOf6 Jan 21
        Replying to @WSJ @carlzimmer

        Sensationalism has no place in science journalism, WSJ.

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      1. Crosspatch‏ @VictorB123 Jan 21
        Replying to @WSJ

        Yes, because China really doesn't care about mistakes.

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      2. Vin Vieba‏ @VVieba Jan 21
        Replying to @WSJ

        "Sometimes we need rules." Victor Frankenstein, as told to Mary Shelley.

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