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    The Wall Street Journal‏Verified account @WSJ 3 Dec 2017

    American students may do badly in international rankings because they don't try as hard on tests, according to a new studyhttp://on.wsj.com/2kf3Its 

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      2. Jaye Espy‏ @JayeEspy 3 Dec 2017
        Replying to @WSJ

        I'm in education and I'm okay with this. No workplace uses tests to determine ability. Schools are still a reflection of a time long past as are tests. Proficiency comes in matching skills to industry needs.

        1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
      3. Autar Kaw‏ @numericalguy 3 Dec 2017
        Replying to @JayeEspy @around_j @WSJ

        Since when has schooling becoming just the sausage machine for the industry.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Aja Canyon‏ @AjaCanyon 3 Dec 2017
        Replying to @numericalguy @around_j @WSJ

        Since the dawn of public schooling in the United States.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OUkeXs2cSJI …

        0 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
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      1. Ben Murphy‏ @benjaminmurph55 3 Dec 2017
        Replying to @WSJ

        Maybe they've come to amazing realization that the tests don't mean nearly as much as they're told.

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      2. FalconTorpedo‏ @falcontorpedo 3 Dec 2017
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        Maybe it's because we don't invest in students, there aren't any jobs for graduates and teachers are forced to only teach how to pass a test so the school gets funding?

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
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      1. Mermaid Tavern‏ @Mermaid_Tav 3 Dec 2017
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        K-12 is all screwed up, the kids and even the teachers are not to blame. The federal and state governments, and their voters are who to blame for not properly funding schools and teachers, and for not basing education on improvement. Segregation is another huge issue. #FixK12

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      2. Lil A‏ @Peterson_777 4 Dec 2017
        Replying to @WSJ

        Because standardized testing is a complete joke.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. B‏ @BrandonRiegerix 4 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Peterson_777 @WSJ

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      2. RCM‏ @rcartermccall 3 Dec 2017
        Replying to @WSJ

        Let us not forget that it is those American students who are the creative ones who most often are the ones creating, developing and pioneering. We score poorly in comparison to China because our children don't spend the majority of time memorizing...yet.

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      2. Autar Kaw‏ @numericalguy 3 Dec 2017
        Replying to @WSJ

        Here we go again and say that tests do not mean anything. They are something if not everything. PISA is a critical thinking test - do not confuse it with SAT.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Theelo5‏ @Theelo5 3 Dec 2017
        Replying to @numericalguy @WSJ

        I’m pretty sure a test score is just a number on a paper, and doesn’t judge intelligence

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      4. °•~LILY~•°#Moonchild‏ @BTSonyeo 4 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Theelo5 @numericalguy @WSJ

        Intelligence is a very broad term since there are many types and manifestations of it. Tests DO check for certain types, critical thinking and basic physical world knowledge mostly. Just because they don't identify all types of intelligence, it doesn't make them null.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Theelo5‏ @Theelo5 4 Dec 2017
        Replying to @BTSonyeo @numericalguy @WSJ

        Most tests I’ve ever seen test how well you can regurgitate information from a textbook to a piece of paper

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      6. Autar Kaw‏ @numericalguy 4 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Theelo5 @BTSonyeo @WSJ

        "PISA tests critical thinking in math, science, and reading to 15 year olds. The test questions do not measure memorization of facts, but rather demand that students draw on knowledge and real-world problem solving skills." - http://www.oecd.org/pisa/ 

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      7. Theelo5‏ @Theelo5 4 Dec 2017
        Replying to @numericalguy @BTSonyeo @WSJ

        One test of many that might have some actual real world use. However this test doesn’t represent all of tests in most developed countries. The far majority of tests show how well a person’s memory is and how good they are at bubbling in circles.

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