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    Vitalik "Not giving away ETH" Buterin‏Verified account @VitalikButerin 23 Feb 2015

    #blockchains are a friggin database technology; 5 years down I doubt any users will care what the underlying network token is

    11:06 AM - 23 Feb 2015
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    19 replies 71 retweets 83 likes
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      2. Vitalik "Not giving away ETH" Buterin‏Verified account @VitalikButerin 23 Feb 2015
        Replying to @VitalikButerin

        my view on cryptotokens is that they are a boring industrial thing that has to exist for economic reasons, like software licenses

        11 replies 15 retweets 20 likes
      3. Vitalik "Not giving away ETH" Buterin‏Verified account @VitalikButerin 23 Feb 2015
        Replying to @VitalikButerin

        Except #stablecoins ; those are cool :) https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/11/11/search-stable-cryptocurrency/ … also generalized portfolio replication more risky but still FTW

        2 replies 14 retweets 15 likes
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      2. Jeff Garzik‏Verified account @jgarzik 26 Feb 2015
        Replying to @VitalikButerin

        @VitalikButerin Blockchain is just an audit log, a difficult-to-censor history. The database (UTXO) is the evaluation (view) of that log.

        2 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
      3. Vitalik "Not giving away ETH" Buterin‏Verified account @VitalikButerin 26 Feb 2015
        Replying to @jgarzik

        @jgarzik I think that whole perspective is an artefact of Bitcoin's imo inferior technical philosophy. State has primacy, not history.

        1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
      4. Jeff Garzik‏Verified account @jgarzik 26 Feb 2015
        Replying to @VitalikButerin

        @VitalikButerin You have no stable state without history

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Vitalik "Not giving away ETH" Buterin‏Verified account @VitalikButerin 26 Feb 2015
        Replying to @jgarzik

        @jgarzik https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/12/26/secret-sharing-daos-crypto-2-0/ … is a useful counterexample; keeps track of state but history could easily be deleted without anyone seeing

        0 replies 5 retweets 5 likes
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      2. Joshua Unseth‏ @junseth 11 Mar 2015
        Replying to @VitalikButerin

        .@VitalikButerin Blockchains are an economic problem, not a computer science one. You should learn that before taking another $15MM.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Vitalik "Not giving away ETH" Buterin‏Verified account @VitalikButerin 11 Mar 2015
        Replying to @junseth

        @junseth blockchains are databases with continued behavior secured by cryptoeconomic means. Don't see the contradiction.

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      4. Joshua Unseth‏ @junseth 11 Mar 2015
        Replying to @VitalikButerin

        .@VitalikButerin #blockchains are bad databases. They are kludgy, heavy, expensive, and you can cryptographically secure an SQL server.

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      5. Vitalik "Not giving away ETH" Buterin‏Verified account @VitalikButerin 11 Mar 2015
        Replying to @junseth

        @junseth well not that expensive once you move beyond PoW :) Also, if you only have 10 tx/day, actually cheaper to use chain than own server

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
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      2. Fred E  ⚡️‏ @Fredilly 26 Feb 2015
        Replying to @VitalikButerin

        @VitalikButerin which token has the most robust documentation?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Vitalik "Not giving away ETH" Buterin‏Verified account @VitalikButerin 26 Feb 2015
        Replying to @Fredilly

        @Fredilly why do tokens need documentation? does gold have any? platforms need documentation; platform/token distinction is crucial

        0 replies 1 retweet 1 like
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      2. Ankur Kumar  ⚡️‏ @dopetard 23 Feb 2015
        Replying to @VitalikButerin

        @VitalikButerin Vitalik, are you hiring for programming roles?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Vitalik "Not giving away ETH" Buterin‏Verified account @VitalikButerin 23 Feb 2015
        Replying to @dopetard

        @ankscricholic depends on your skills; send email with cv/whatever else you want to v@ethdev.com and will forward it on

        0 replies 2 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Meher Roy‏ @MeherRoy 23 Feb 2015
        Replying to @VitalikButerin

        @VitalikButerin 1/2 Wonder why database part took so long? Decentralization through PoW I understand but the idea of contract

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Meher Roy‏ @MeherRoy 23 Feb 2015
        Replying to @MeherRoy

        @VitalikButerin 2/2 executing inside databases (your brainwave) could have come earlier right? Why didn't it?

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Vitalik "Not giving away ETH" Buterin‏Verified account @VitalikButerin 23 Feb 2015
        Replying to @MeherRoy

        @MeherRoy databases and replicated state machines are boring, ending the fed is cool; what do you expect? :D

        3 replies 2 retweets 12 likes
      5. Douglas Frank‏ @dpfrank07 26 Feb 2015
        Replying to @VitalikButerin

        @VitalikButerin @MeherRoy The young, disenfranchised & anti-authoritarian demographic makes a great PR army. Not so great an economic one.

        0 replies 1 retweet 1 like
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