Right, I agree that's important. So it's what people selfishly want wrt population ethics.
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Replying to @ProofOfLogic @ModelOfTheory
i think "selfish" means it's about things in your own life. wealth or success or love or whatever
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i don't have a hard criterion for what's selfish but i think "selfish want about population ethics" is weird
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"i selfishly want there to be happy people in a galaxy far away who will never causally affect me" seems wrong
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i.e. you can want that, but it's a want on the level of "i want preference utilitarianism"
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not a want of the kind that preference utilitarianism aggregates
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Replying to @VesselOfSpirit @ModelOfTheory
Selfish wants about population ethics are like "I want kids" or "I want there to be more people around here"
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Replying to @ProofOfLogic @ModelOfTheory
i think those are things people can have both selfish and otherish reasons for wanting
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"having kids is a gratifying experience" selfish, "i want my kids to prosper after my death" non-selfish, but
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here "selfish" and "non-selfish" aren't meant as condemnation/praise or as a claim of negative sumness or so on
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just as "self-regarding" and "other-regarding". which are concepts a pref utilitarian would have to flesh out
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i'm closer to a "list of good things" utilitarian than a preference utilitarian, though, anyway
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but i'm not really a utilitarian because just as value of life isn't sum of values of observer-moments,
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