countercountersignaling is when with a background of that they get serious again like ulam looks into VN's eyes
i think ppl sometimes say "countersignaling" to mean direction of signaling, sometimes also motive
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and it'sconfusing because ppl signal in multiple dimensions in practice. instead of only back/forth
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motive for not signaling is always a mix of not paying signaling cost + other things i guess
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