@VesselOfSpirit but it seems natural to me to think of leaving something be, and destroying and then reconstructing it, as different things
@willdoingthings there are a lot of ways to respond with anthropomorphic intuitions to the word "trading"
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@willdoingthings it's like how people talk about aliens "moving" between places in the context of the fermi paradox. instead of copying -
@willdoingthings this is not an argument, i'm just trying to describe my general sense of what arguments will hold up -
@willdoingthings like it seems like there will be some trade/negotiation process somehow that ends up with different values getting shares -
@willdoingthings but any further claims about what that trading process will look like / affect seem hard to substantiate -
@willdoingthings and i guess i was implicitly claiming that it WON'T affect various things, so the question is if that's more reasonable
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@VesselOfSpirit yeah, also contents of trade might not make sense, e.g. "preserve humans" is potentially rather anthropomorphic even for FAI -
@willdoingthings is your claim that it would preserve humans or preserve all of earth, or don't know -
@VesselOfSpirit more like sketching out a mechanism by which it would something-like-preserve something-like-humanity -
@willdoingthings i guess it feels implausible that a small set of events near transition would have outsized cosmic moral importance -
@willdoingthings though humans there have outsized prudential importance and might naively-care-like-thing about that small set of events -
@VesselOfSpirit oh I understand now. Yeah I concur with that intuition. -
@VesselOfSpirit I guess it becomes a question of trade value. How many stars does the FAI coalition have to give up? What if only 1/20th say -
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