sometimes it's useful to remember that a solution theoretically exist, because otherwise you'll adopt models where it doesn't exist
@admittedlyhuman people sometimes don't smash each other's windows even when it would be fun and they wouldn't get caught
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@admittedlyhuman if you want to call such people "indoctrinated not to follow incentives", fine, whatever, but there are connotations here -
@admittedlyhuman there are a lot of things that we pretend, as a society, aren't really selfish, but totally are
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