"moloch" isn't an agent that dooms humans from the outside. it is the spawn of human deviation from the utilitarian standard
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@VesselOfSpirit so what you're saying is, people mean well -
@admittedlyhuman i'm saying they can sometimes be gotten to mean well in some contexts -
@admittedlyhuman and "humans follow incentives" isn't as fundamental a law as some people try to make it sound -
@VesselOfSpirit@admittedlyhuman i like the tautological view where every action is just navigating a map of local emotional gradient -
@VesselOfSpirit@admittedlyhuman the incentives are the evil things. we need to make people feel bad about being bad. then they follow incen
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