"nobody is bad. all bad things actually exist because of ~super insightful econo-incentive game theory tragedy magic~" no
@admittedlyhuman it's not practically useful to hate them, but denying that common standards of hatred imply hating them will imply errors
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@admittedlyhuman not all important truths are important because people should act on them. all truths hang together -
@VesselOfSpirit@admittedlyhuman Some logical systems work well without principle of explosion. Not all truths hang together.
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@VesselOfSpirit I guess you want to teach them virtue, or at least yell at them to become good, and this requires virtue to matter? -
@admittedlyhuman if the claim is "people wantonly cause suffering but hating them for it isn't useful", say that and not "people mean well" -
@VesselOfSpirit I don't think people talking about Moloch say "people mean well", they just think it's uninteresting what people mean -
@admittedlyhuman "we are being attacked by a common enemy!" no, we are attacking each other -
@VesselOfSpirit@admittedlyhuman "We're being helped by a common ally!" No, we're helping each other.
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