@VesselOfSpirit I'm not saying this as an argument against becoming good, just a general expression of hopelessness
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@admittedlyhuman i guess i'm just saying they tend to forget to take externalities into account -
@VesselOfSpirit say not "become good" but "destroy evil". except that doesn't work either -
@admittedlyhuman people stop at the first word and just read "destroy". which is not as much an issue with "become"
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