@GabrielDuquette not joking but not straightforwardly happy with my current ability to identify/name the problem
@admittedlyhuman @GabrielDuquette applications to personal life yes, applications to coherent collective action no
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@VesselOfSpirit@GabrielDuquette I get the sense that effective-altruism type stuff has gained a good bit from the rationalist movement -
@VesselOfSpirit@GabrielDuquette and the initial goal of promoting AI risk work seems to have benefited too -
@admittedlyhuman@GabrielDuquette sure. not saying it should never have existed -
@admittedlyhuman@GabrielDuquette though there's a difference between altruism that is actually effective and the effective altruism brand -
@VesselOfSpirit@GabrielDuquette I can't really argue about effective altruism with you because my heart's not gonna be in it
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@VesselOfSpirit@GabrielDuquette they didn't even manage to make that work in HPMOR -
@admittedlyhuman@GabrielDuquette hpmor is plausibly where we jumped the collective shark
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@VesselOfSpirit@admittedlyhuman coherent collective action is exactly that which is not really helped by a few folks with rationalityThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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