so the "ego" in egoism is misleading. it's the agent self acting on behalf of the patient self that is nearest to it and most entangled
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not the agent self acting for the sake of the agent self
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there's two kinds of egoism. one is saying things similar to you matter more, the other is saying things that *are* you matter more
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as in, my judgments as to what a good life is are irreducible. they are caused by me being me and that makes them be of a certain character
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that's the former thing and i think it's in some sense, to some extent, not mistaken
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the latter thing is a different person experiencing the exact same life as you has different value than you
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and it seems like a lot of effort to make sense out of that and by the time i've tried i no longer have the intuition that i should
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humans are arguably programmed to model themselves and other people differently. even when the exact same things go on inside
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and once you realize this, valuing yourself more because you happen to be in the same brain no longer seems as appealing
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my brain feels you exist less when you're far away. but my brain is just wrong on that point. (modulo weird simulation measure stuff)
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or maybe my brain doesn't distinguish between existence and importance-given-existence. it uses heuristics interpretable both ways
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at times when i grok that what it is like to me be is what it is like to be you, an egoistic component to morality is no longer common sense
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at those times, i think i want you to have a good-life-according-to-me no less than i want me to have a good-life-according-to-me
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