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    1. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
      Replying to @VesselOfSpirit

      @VesselOfSpirit the moral assumptions behind the effective altruism movement

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 4 Mar 2015
      Replying to @admittedlyhuman

      @admittedlyhuman which ones

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
      Replying to @VesselOfSpirit

      @VesselOfSpirit oh no, no, not you too

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 4 Mar 2015
      Replying to @admittedlyhuman

      @admittedlyhuman when you're sinking into the quicksand and the person on the edge won't toss you a rope because it's too late to save you

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
      Replying to @VesselOfSpirit

      @VesselOfSpirit effective altruism shows up in the "taking ideas seriously" community, but the ideas are pious hypocrisies.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
      Replying to @admittedlyhuman

      @VesselOfSpirit they act like there is this specific ethical foundation that is objectively true or as near as makes no difference

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
      Replying to @admittedlyhuman

      @VesselOfSpirit and then it's this ethical foundation that they're using to derive weird results like "be nice to animals"

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
      Replying to @admittedlyhuman

      @VesselOfSpirit but the reason it seems true is that everyone endorses it, but the reason that everyone endorses it is not that it's true

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
      Replying to @admittedlyhuman

      @VesselOfSpirit not in the "well there's no objective morality really but we're all humans here" sense, it's not even human morality.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
      Replying to @admittedlyhuman

      @VesselOfSpirit people endorse it because it's the sort of thing that's polite to endorse and leads to better cooperation

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 4 Mar 2015
      Replying to @admittedlyhuman

      @admittedlyhuman bulverism

      1:56 PM - 4 Mar 2015
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        2. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
          Replying to @VesselOfSpirit

          @VesselOfSpirit if the only argument for it being true is that people hold it as an opinion it's fair to explain other possible causes

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 4 Mar 2015
          Replying to @admittedlyhuman

          @admittedlyhuman but of course that isn't the only argument; people will cite symmetry considerations, correcting for cognitive bias, etc

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
          Replying to @VesselOfSpirit

          @VesselOfSpirit why is symmetry a consideration? cognitive bias relative to what?

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        5. End of conversation
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        2. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 4 Mar 2015
          Replying to @VesselOfSpirit

          @admittedlyhuman you haven't started to make your case, only gloated about how it could be made

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        3. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
          Replying to @VesselOfSpirit

          @VesselOfSpirit well like, we agree there is no objective morality really, right

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 4 Mar 2015
          Replying to @admittedlyhuman

          @admittedlyhuman i don't know what "objective" means here

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        5. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 4 Mar 2015
          Replying to @VesselOfSpirit

          @VesselOfSpirit like, really real and true, without reference to how humans feel about it

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Sam Burnstein‏ @GrumplessGrinch 4 Mar 2015
          Replying to @admittedlyhuman

          @admittedlyhuman @VesselOfSpirit Human feelings are real -> My feelings are real -> My ethics are real.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        7. End of conversation

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