When you see someone trapped in a mistake and it's too late to save them and you watch helplessly as they sink deeper into the quicksand
@admittedlyhuman is the claim that effective altruism is wrong because altruism is wrong? you can just say that
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@VesselOfSpirit well there's nothing really wrong with altruism until you try to make it effective -
@VesselOfSpirit plenty of ideas work out pretty well in practice until you take them seriously. -
@VesselOfSpirit but I will admit to some defensive verbiage here because "altruism is wrong" is not a claim you're supposed to endorse. -
@admittedlyhuman@VesselOfSpirit you could use the phrase "telescopic altruism" -
@drethelin@VesselOfSpirit the telescopicity is not really the underlying problem, just a symptom
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