@sarahdoingthing and not just technically false like "space is flat", but pretty substantially false
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@VesselOfSpirit@AvengingRedHand@sarahdoingthing@asilentsky Anti-natalism is non-self-perpetuating and therefore an irrelevant memeplex -
@PoseidonAwoke@AvengingRedHand@sarahdoingthing@asilentsky it is possible for humans to persuade people who are not their children -
@VesselOfSpirit@AvengingRedHand@sarahdoingthing@asilentsky Natalists outbreed and displace anti-natalists. See Islam vs Secular Liberal -
@PoseidonAwoke@AvengingRedHand@sarahdoingthing@asilentsky secular liberals currently seem to have a lot more power somehow -
@VesselOfSpirit@PoseidonAwoke@AvengingRedHand@sarahdoingthing In other words the childstealer memes built a giant child funnel. -
@asilentsky@PoseidonAwoke@AvengingRedHand@sarahdoingthing so antinatalist memes can win by joining the childstealer memeplex -
@VesselOfSpirit@sarahdoingthing I can imagine anti-natalism picked up by the Cathedral, just in a genocidal variant.
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@VesselOfSpirit@sarahdoingthing@asilentsky Everyone suffers. Are people per se an evil? -
@AvengingRedHand@sarahdoingthing@asilentsky i did not mean to claim that suffering is the only morally relevant thing. but it is one -
@VesselOfSpirit@sarahdoingthing@asilentsky You didn't answer the Q. How much does a person have to suffer before his existence is evil? -
@AvengingRedHand@sarahdoingthing@asilentsky the answer "no, people per se are not an evil" was implicit in my response
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@MikeAnissimov@VesselOfSpirit@sarahdoingthing@asilentsky I have nothing but contempt for a morality whose sole criterion is 'pain bad' -
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@MikeAnissimov@AvengingRedHand@sarahdoingthing@asilentsky that is a very specific variant of utilitarianism. also contempt is no argument -
@MikeAnissimov@AvengingRedHand@sarahdoingthing@asilentsky (in particular, it is not a variant of utilitarianism i was advocating)
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