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    1. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 13 Apr 2019
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      @leashless - Just listened to your interview with @dthorson, and... holy shit. It's going to take me awhile to digest the whole thing. Maybe I'll say more later! Right now, just a comment on the Effective Altruism thing, since you said you "look forward to being corrected"

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    2. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 13 Apr 2019
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      I want to note that I resonate with the core point you were making, both in my personal experience and in other EAs (I've been to 5 yearly summits & have many EA friends). This core point (I gather) being: EA prioritization is biased due to inability to BE WITH suffering.

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    3. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 13 Apr 2019
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      So my aim here is mostly to give you a bit more context about EA's relationship with AI. One thing to know is that it isn't really a single institution. There's a Center for Effective Altruism which coordinates stuff, but EA is more of a "collection of movements under one banner"

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    4. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 13 Apr 2019
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      At least one of these movements (from Eliezer) was oriented towards AI before altruism. early-Eliezer thought "make AGI, it'll fix everything" then realized that by default it would be like capitalism×100: a system that systematically optimizes for things-other-than-what-matters.

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    5. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 13 Apr 2019
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      At that time (mid-00s) there was no global conversation around superintelligence as a risk at all, so he wrote the LessWrong sequences to convince people to care about it. That clearly worked to some degree: there are now dozens of people working fulltime on it, and others aware.

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      Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 13 Apr 2019
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      the sequences started in the mid-00s but the realization you referred to was earlier, i think the late 90s

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        2. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 13 Apr 2019
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          hmm, based on this post it seems maybe the realization was more like 2002? https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/fLRPeXihRaiRo5dyX/the-magnitude-of-his-own-folly …pic.twitter.com/mNEFSNhOpA

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        3. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 13 Apr 2019
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          hmm, maybe. i was basing this mostly on him having written "creating friendly ai" in 2001 (as opposed to "creating any old ai and it will do the right thing")

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