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    1. hikikomorphism 🏳️‍🌈 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism 29 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @GrumplessGrinch @VesselOfSpirit

      1) is what you get when you don't even try to be charitable, here's an exercise: how large of a climate driven failed state/refugee crisis would be required to destabilize the current world order to the extent that nuclear war becomes significantly more likely?

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    2. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 29 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @hikikomorphism @GrumplessGrinch

      regardless of what the answer is i don't see how you can interpret "the world ends in 12 years" as a reasonable summary of it

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    3. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 29 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @VesselOfSpirit @hikikomorphism @GrumplessGrinch

      charitable interpretation isn't a blanket excuse to say stuff that's completely wrong

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    4. hikikomorphism 🏳️‍🌈 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism 29 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @VesselOfSpirit @GrumplessGrinch

      She did clarify her statement, in the very tweet you're quoting it says 12 years to take action, not 12 years or we're all doomed. Reads to me as a clarification of obvious hyperbole to head off takes such as the ones upthread

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    5. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 29 Jan 2019
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      yes, 12 years to take action to ensure we get only 0.5 degrees of warming above present. not 12 years to take action to prevent the end of the world

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    6. hikikomorphism 🏳️‍🌈 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism 29 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @VesselOfSpirit @GrumplessGrinch

      You seem like the kind of person who would have taken great delight in pointing out that nuclear war between the US and USSR would not technically result in the end of the world because it wouldn't literally destroy the Earth's core.

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    7. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 29 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @hikikomorphism @GrumplessGrinch

      this is a fully general snark that you can use to defend any false claim

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    8. hikikomorphism 🏳️‍🌈 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism 29 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @VesselOfSpirit @GrumplessGrinch

      It's me pointing out that the rhetorical techniques you're using are very close to full generality.

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    9. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 29 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @hikikomorphism @GrumplessGrinch

      i'm claiming that the difference between what the average person imagines on seeing the claim that "the world ends in 12 years" and "we have 12 years to prevent an additional temperature increase over 0.5 deg" is a really important one

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    10. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 29 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @VesselOfSpirit @hikikomorphism @GrumplessGrinch

      unlike the difference between, say, the destruction of the earth's surface and its core

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      Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 29 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @VesselOfSpirit @hikikomorphism @GrumplessGrinch

      (nuclear war wouldn't destroy the earth's surface or probably even human civilization; this is a legitimate point to make)

      9:21 AM - 29 Jan 2019
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        2. hikikomorphism 🏳️‍🌈 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism 29 Jan 2019
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          Replying to @VesselOfSpirit @GrumplessGrinch

          Noting for the record that my snarky fully general argument turned out to be extremely correct.

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        3. Vessel Of Spirit‏ @VesselOfSpirit 29 Jan 2019
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          Replying to @hikikomorphism @GrumplessGrinch

          correct-adjacent, anyway

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