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Against #Circumcision, #FGM, and #Intersex Correction. #BodilyIntegrity › #BodilyAutonomy. #Enlightenment values, best values. #Feminist+#MRA=#Egalitarian

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    1. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 17

      Hopefully with enough time having passed for people to calm down, I'd like to embark on a discussion of a metanarrative that sprung up during the Kavanaugh hearings: Namely, that the #feminist notion of men sharing their feelings is a complete lie. #MRAhttps://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-fox-news-interview-sexual-assault.html …

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    2. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 17

      In this Slate article on September 24th, and in many other mainstream media reports at the time, Kavanaugh was criticized for being "too robotic", sharing "too little emotion". > The most alarming thing about Monday’s interview, aside from Kavanaugh’s robotic repetition, ...

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    3. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 17

      So, this fits a central #feminist critique of men: that they don't show enough emotion. Time and again, I have heard the importance for men to be outright and forward with their feelings, so the natural feminist response should be to applaud Kavanaugh for showing emotion, right?

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    4. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 17

      Wrong. A man accused of sexual assault at the eleventh hour isn't allowed to be angry, or mad? He should be shamed for it? So says the reprehensible Slate. > it’s laughable, certainly, to anyone who has had to live with an unstable and angry man.https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-hearing-angry-shouting.html …

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    5. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 17

      You can't tell boys and the men they become, "it's ok to be angry!", "you don't have to be bottle it up!", "just tell me how you're feeling!", and then turn around and scream, "IF YOU'RE ANGRY, THAT MEANS YOU'RE UNSTABLE!!!" Create a consistent moral standard or stop preaching ¶

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    6. Intactive‏ @intactive Oct 17
      Replying to @VaetanThought

      You can't draw conclusions about how men in general should behave from how Brett Kavanaugh behaved in a TV interview or the Senate Judiciary Committee.

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    7. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 17
      Replying to @intactive

      I'm not drawing conclusions about how men should behave. I'm drawing attention to the feminist double standard that men should show emotion but only if it's emotion that they agree with. Take circumcision instead. Many (not all) American feminists say they want (1/2)

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      Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 17
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      their sons to be open and honest with their feelings and emotions, but then proceed to SHAME their sons if they ever bring up circumcision pain and regret: "It isn't as bad as FGM!" "I suffered pain delivering you, a little cut is no big deal." (2/2)

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        2. Intactive‏ @intactive Oct 17
          Replying to @VaetanThought

          More generalisation, running together two very different groups of women. Prejudice is treating all (all right, "not all" but almost all) members of a group as if they share some disliked characteristic.

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        3. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 18
          Replying to @intactive

          I wrote as nuanced a tweet as I could and I'm still being accused of prejudice. Wow. I put American in there because for the most part European feminists aren't virulently anti-FGM and pro-MGM. What two different groups of women am I mashing together?

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        4. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 18
          Replying to @VaetanThought @intactive

          I'll agree that millennial feminists are less likely to support circumcision. I'll agree that West Coast feminists are less likely to support circumcision. I'll grant that since a majority of Americans support circumcision, statistically that would apply to feminists as well.

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        5. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 18
          Replying to @VaetanThought @intactive

          However, it is blatant hypocrisy for Midwest or East Coast feminists to rattle on about how much they want boys and men to express themselves, and then utterly shame men for coming forward with their emotions. Obviously, I can't prove this statistically; I've just seen it happen

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