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Against #Circumcision, #FGM, and #Intersex Correction. #BodilyIntegrity › #BodilyAutonomy. #Enlightenment values, best values. #Feminist+#MRA=#Egalitarian

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    1. Big Sigh‏ @e1ais Oct 13

      Iceland to become first European country to ban circumcisionhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/iceland-male-circumcision-ban-religious-leaders-outrage-mp-bill-proposed-a8217696.html …

      19 replies 54 retweets 170 likes
    2. Ciferknight‏ @ciferknight Oct 13
      Replying to @e1ais @rkdoctr

      Finally, somebody is doing something right!

      1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
    3. kir‏ @politicoid_us Oct 13
      Replying to @ciferknight @e1ais @rkdoctr

      Exactly. NO medical treatment should be performed on an infant, unless it is to prevent a clear and imminent threat. It's a violation of bodily autonomy! Are you with me?

      2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    4. Ciferknight‏ @ciferknight Oct 14
      Replying to @politicoid_us @e1ais @rkdoctr

      Yes. Plus I hear keeping your foreskin makes sex more pleasurable and that is definitely an important factor.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    5. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 14
      Replying to @ciferknight @politicoid_us and

      @politicoid_us I think you meant to say no nonmedical* or nontherapeutic surgeries should be performed on infants before they are at an age where they can consent. Routine and ritual circumcision inherently violate the Hippocratic Oath.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    6. kir‏ @politicoid_us Oct 15
      Replying to @VaetanThought @ciferknight and

      What is a non-medical treatment? A treatment that does not provide immediate improvement to existing symptoms?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. kir‏ @politicoid_us Oct 15
      Replying to @politicoid_us @VaetanThought and

      Same with "therapeutic." What exactly do you mean?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 15
      Replying to @politicoid_us @ciferknight and

      Nontherapeutic is a synonym of nonmedical. When you say, "NO medical treatment should be performed on an infant", that's implying that all routine circumcisions are performed for medical reasons when they are not. Many are cut "to look like his dad" or "looks like an anteater".

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    9. kir‏ @politicoid_us Oct 15
      Replying to @VaetanThought @ciferknight and

      Systematic review does indicate that circumcision does act as a prophylactic.

      4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 15
      Replying to @politicoid_us @ciferknight and

      But that research is being debunked and will be completely. Circumcision doesn't protect against HIV or other STDs, penile cancer is less likely than male breast cancer, and UTIs are treated by antibiotics. Circumcision is never a prophylactic.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aids-circumcision/circumcision-does-not-affect-hiv-in-u-s-men-study-idUSN0345545120071204 …

      7:59 AM - 15 Oct 2018
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        2. kir‏ @politicoid_us Oct 15
          Replying to @VaetanThought @ciferknight and

          Allow me to provide you with a systematic review which rejects your position.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5296634/ …

          3 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        3. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 16
          Replying to @politicoid_us @ciferknight and

          That review is from 2016 whilst the study on American HIV transmission is from this year. It's impossible for Brian Morris' review to "reject my position" when the study to reject didn't exist. Are you seriously going to argue that circumcision prevents HIV in the West?

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        4. kir‏ @politicoid_us Oct 16
          Replying to @VaetanThought @ciferknight and

          You're dumber than a lot of the anti-vaxxers I've met. A narrow clinical trial does not supersede a systematic review.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Vaetan Thought‏ @VaetanThought Oct 18
          Replying to @politicoid_us @ciferknight and

          You don't seem to understand how science works, which is evident with how you can't argue a single point or counterpoint from the review in this thread. Science relies on hypothesis, data, and testing. New data requires re-review. Stop appealing, start arguing.

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