@ZoeQuinnzel watching gamecenter CX, it blows my mind how often old manuals had ultraspecific info about how to get past tricky sections
It's cool looking at how game design has changed since we stopped expecting players to read enormous manuals explaining how things worked
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@TomSmizzle I'm going through Masters of Orion 2's more than 100 page manual right now haha -
@ZoeQuinnzel it's why i'm glad GOG gives you PDFs of manuals. speaking of which i got star control 2! you were recommending that, right? -
@TomSmizzle YESSS. But wait you paid for it? -
@ZoeQuinnzel i got 1 and 2 from gog for like £1.50 in a sale. did i just buy some freeware? -
@TomSmizzle google "ur quan masters". The game's code has been open source for a while -
@ZoeQuinnzel haha, oops! well now i have access to the sweet sweet PDF manual, guide and starmap -
@TomSmizzle the starmap is kinda worth it. I suggest saving it as a jpg because you might need to take notes - 1 more reply
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@ZoeQuinnzel the weird thing is, some of the games that do the best job teaching through play are from the "RTFM era" -
@andrewtraviss Out of curiousity, which ones? (this came to mind while reading Masters of Orion 2's 100+ pg manual) -
@ZoeQuinnzel Megaman X and Super Mario Brothers 1 and 3 are the ones that come to mind. Nintendo has actually gotten worse at this over time -
@andrewtraviss Yeah, the mario games were great at this.
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@ZoeQuinnzel It got SO MUCH BETTER. Although, there was a time before manuals too, like Mario 1 and stuff. -
@agentmaine Yeah, games were less complex back then and didn't really need them. -
@ZoeQuinnzel I dunno if I agree.@auntiepixelante and 1-up have done write-ups of 1-1 as an excellent lesson in implicit tutorialization. -
@agentmaine@auntiepixelante I'm more talking about the difference between Mario and say, any build and conquer that came after though
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@ZoeQuinnzel@hannardynamite is doing her dissertation on this very topic. Hopefully, she finds a happy middle-ground. -
@dedhedzed@hannardynamite That's really cool! I have a half-written article I'll never finish about it, haha -
@ZoeQuinnzel If you're interested, I'll be posting regular updates about my research soon. - End of conversation
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