I don't understand why if the date was going bad from dinner, she still decided to go back to his place. Then she also allowed him to perform oral sex on her consensually. Then she was offended by him trying to have sex with her? Misunderstanding: definitely. Sexual Assault: NO.
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Totally disagree with putting
@azizansari in mix of#Metoomovement The girl was on a date not a job interview. No one forced her to be there. If she didn't want to be touched say so and leave. Say no. Speak up.#ThursdayThoughts#AzizAnsari#teamAziz -
She did leave. But not before being aggressively groped to the point her fright defenses kicked in and she disassociated. Ever experienced that? It’s horrible.
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Yup I have.
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So then you know speaking up and immediately leaving is impossible. It’s a typical response to being sexually violated. Going to someone’s apt to get to know them is not a consent for agressive sex.
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She’s right about not having to be happy about Ansari’s actions, but the idea no one is trying to end his career is not true. I’ve seen plenty of people on Twitter trying to turn his name into shit.
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And it doesn't have to be an accusation of rape or sexual abuse to ruin a young man's life! I'm the mother of a young son, and this broad brush is frightening. I am also the daughter of a mother of 5 girls who were taught we weren't helpless.
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Never actually watched her show before. Stand up comedy with a laugh track is...novel.
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It's a live audience, or was that your passive aggressive way of saying women aren't funny?
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I suppose it's possible there's ALSO a live audience there, but that's what a laugh track sounds like. You can assume that's somehow sexist if it makes you feel better about life. But the laughter you hear wont be pre taped.
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Sometimes women have to take responsibility for their own choices, too.
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I still say
@azizansari is not a mind reader. Choosing to go to a person’s house and performing a sexual act because you didn’t feel empowered enough to say “no” to someone —and you weren’t physically forced or verbally threatened — doesn’t mean you are a victimThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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It's called free will and everyone has it.Itwas her decision to go back to his apartment.It was her decision to go ahead with oral sex. Since when does a bad date or a bad sexual experience consist of sexual assault? For the love of God who hasn't had this happen? Man or Woman
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Sooo - Ms Bee feels there should be no standard whatsoever, and anyone can throw random allegations out there, destroy other people's lives on a whim?
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ORRRR people can respect other people's bodies.
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True - but that is not the point. As in the case that Ms Bee is commenting on, the contact between these two people was consentual, but the female had some kind of misgivings the DAY AFTER. How can that be in any way be characterized as abuse / assault, anything?
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Have you ever been sexually assaulted? Serious question
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Yes. But that has nothing to do with the case at hand. There was no "sexual assault", just "buyer's remorse" as it were. That is NOT grounds to make allegations and potentially destroy someone's life! That Is why so many women in the"metoo" movement are condeming the woman here.
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She told him he wasn't comfortable and he kept pushing and pushing. That's assault. Also, as a victim yourself, you can understand how hard it can be to keep a level head during the incident.
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