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Not convinced what is typically defined as "100%" is a good amount to be working for most people, either.

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Apr 17, 2018

We need to stop glamorizing working at 150%. That extra 50% is a loan from your future self. Eventually you’ll need to collect on it.

Cinder

@Triquetrea

Apr 21, 2018

Majority of jobs are either: - Sedentary - Physically dangerous - Heavy on stress and emotional labour Or a combination. 8-9 hours a day of that, sometimes more? Yeah, no, that can do a lot of damage.

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Ah, the concerns of the wealthiest population ever to have lived. A sign of the times, and no bad thing. But perspective helps.

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I didn't say the recent past (or pre-agriculture) was an improvement, particularly not in material wealth. It's not a relativistic statement. Turning it into a relativistic statement doesn't grant perspective. It distorts the point.

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(I'm not saying you don't have a point. I'm saying the point is a bit of a red herring in this context.)

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The red herring is the idea that anyone except the most privileged can do anything about the brutal reality of needing to feed their families through long hours and hard work - which comes at a price, as does everything of value.

Cinder

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@CeaselessChange

My profession is highly technical. Wages are down massively in the past 5 years, combination of cronyism and automation. Now I work in automation. The work I'm doing won't be as quickly replaced (but it will). My old job will be as profitable as working in a cash register, soon.

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None of which is to say that anyone can just pick up and leave work. I have a family to feed, too. There's no need for the condescension. But this world model you're presenting is dying. As it does, it will take with it a lot of paid work. You can still work for free, but...

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Are you saying that people in future will be paid for not working? I hope you’re right. I doubt you are. Western society has been wealthy enough to eradicate poverty for several generations, but hasn’t. I don’t see grounds for hope that that is going to change.

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