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I generally agree, but some people will too readily ignore or negate a serious window of opportunity because they’ve been taught to see all meditative experiences as just more sensory arising. Nuanced approach is optimal; but yours is probably safer on avg.

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Don’t mind me, I’m just passing by.

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Sorry to be so abrupt. I’m trying to make that the old me, but it squeezes back through every now and then. 😔

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No need to say sorry Jody. I respect the position you and Chagmé are coming from; I just think we can be more adult about meditation practice. I’m sympathetic to the ‘so what’ school of thought - and yet taking that as a blanket approach might be a massive flaw in training.

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In fact, I’d say it’s a missed opportunity to not ignore it. It’s a different feature than the normal distracting thoughts and sensations, and thus affords a chance to lock in focus in a more rigorous setting, like jogging with leg weights.

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Sure, in that context of practice that could be a perfectly reasonable way to train. One could also do the exact opposite and open to the full vividness of subjective space-time in all its bizarre co-emergent transient glory. Both could be valid approaches, among others 🤷‍♂️

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I don't give a fuck what people tell me for practice if it works. I would sing mantras over a sheep's skull if it would do something fun. But it can be a bit rattling to see "practice this way only" stated when it can't possibly be an authoritative claim. Where are the results?